Speed21,

The system that user has listed is indeed a Fabspeed system, our supersport from 2001 - this system has long been discontinued along with the cats pictured. Now we only utilized HJS cats in all of our catted systems.

 

I think the horse s dead.......

 

TT...this horse is a cat with 666 lives!

 

LMAOOOOOO!!! it's a zombie horse, can't be killed LOL!!

 

Gotta shoot it in the head, it's a walker.
Seriously Paul, I would drop the fs stuff, it won't have a happy ending for anybody.
C

 

I would most certainly agree with you Chris that I would be foolish to have my self "banned" over Fabspeed and the "pursuit of the truth". As I have said I have no "vendetta" against FS and, if it appears to some that I do, then let me set the record straight. I do not. I was merely looking for answers that's all. But I won't bother now. There is no point and you are quite right "the horse" is dead.

 

Interesting response...considering you have a video on your YouTube channel bashing Tubi for using "pins" in their cats on a 4 YEAR OLD EXHAUST.

They, too, have switched to HJS cats...but you had no problem bashing them for using the cats they used a few years ago.

 

Dubaudi,

Technology advances - just as auto manufactures once used carburetors in the past and now uses EFI, we once used catalytic converters that are not up to the standards of the catalytic converters we use now.

 

I think you missed his point.

 

OK...so let me just make sure I understand what you're saying. You're allowed to upgrade to better catalytic converters and expect us to forget the past. But when another company does the same, you still make a video bashing them, using an old system? What sense does that make?

What if we rounded up all the 5 year old Fabspeed exhaust systems out there and started doing comparisons and reviews of those versus competitors brand new products. How good do you think those evaluations would turn out?

Of course they did. What else is new? It's pretty obvious that whoever is posting thinks we are all really stupid.

 

I was going to shell 4k for an Fabspeed exhuast for my 997.2 Carrera Turbo, after reading all those negative threads about the integrity of the product i'm taking a step back. Simple question to FabSpeed, if i buy an new exhaust from your website will it be fully built in the US or it would be sourced from out of the US ? Thanks

 

I'm new to porsche so I'm not entirely familiar with the history of the aftermarket. But what this video seems to show, is that the labor going into the exhaust (or at least the one in the video) seems to of high quality. Granted I'm not an engineer or know hardly anything about welding or exhaust assembly, but it appears these people know what they are doing. But with that said, if the material for this exhaust was of high quality, there wouldn't be so many people who complain.

Now going to the post by the fabspeed representative from the owner, he listed you guys import from all over the world. But what I would add to that, is the percentages from all over the world. For example what is the percentage and what materials do you get from China? Apple has done something similar like this for their iPhone. They show their supply chain management.

So to fight these claims, I would post something similar so people could see what you get from China exactly. If you truly have so much faith in your own product, transparency is your best policy. Especially at the price you ask. So far the only thing that seems to be legit on this exhaust are the cats.

Also I can't gauge the actual engineering/design of your exhaust in it's entirety. For example while your tips looks fantastic, they have a flaw on .2 turbos. They cause the air to split direction and get blocked, changing the sound of the exhaust, as well as cutting hp. This is an design flaw.

 

Just curious if you could provide more info about your assertion? Are you saying the exhaust tips cut hp? What do you mean when you say the air gets blocked?

 

There are a couple threads on 6speed about this I believe. I remember stumbling upon them on my exhaust research, also a few of the AM companies when I asked about buying them for my .2 actually told me don't do it. On the .2 cars the pipe goes out the middle. https://www.facebook.com/KlineInnova...type=3&theater

This picture on kline's facebook shows it well. The rear one is a .2, the front is a .1. Notice on the .1 it is off to the side, and on the .2 it's right in the middle. So when you put the dual tips on the .1, essentially air is going out only through one tip and the 2nd is for show.
They didn't change the design on the .2, so again you get the conjoining point of the tips right in the middle of the hole. So the air gets split in half right at the end. When I wanted to order them from one of the AM companies that sell they told me, it will effect my sound and hp because of the disruption in airflow. They said AWE put something up on 6speed showing a 20hp loss, to me that sounds a bit high. I'm sure the hp loss is minimal and not even felt, but the thing that worried me is how it would change the sound.

Techart realized this so they adjusted their tip design for the .2. The below is a .1 picture. And then this is on the .2 http://sharkwerks.com/porsche/997-tu...0s-wheels.html
http://www.sharkwerks.com/products.php?pid=136

Go to the bottom and look at their gallery for the .2 car and the .1 car. You will notice the techart tips are more or less uniform on the .1, but on the .2, one is huge and the other is very small(which personally I don't like that look). They did this because of the difference in exhaust between the .1 and .2 cars.

Take a look at this picture of the AWE quad tips. http://www.awe-tuning.com/quad-tips-...bo-and-turbo-s They give you a perfect angle of how the air flow is being blocked. I mean you can barely see inside the pipe with those tips on.

 

I know the pitch changes, but I've never heard of a hp drop?