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Old 01-15-2008 | 09:24 PM
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I have often pondered why some cars seem numb to me and others make you feel intimately connected to the machine. Some of the cars I have driven that have great feedback would be the old early 90's Acura Integra, and E36M3. Some of the poorest would be almost any GM car, and any recent Volvo.

I have heard people complain about the 997tt and then rave on the 997Gt3. I have owned both and can say the Gt3 is more involving mainly thru the steering input, the stiff suspension, and thru the exhaust wail. It is otherwise pretty similar. I now have added a 993tt and am noticing a great deal of feedback coming from the shifter itself. The 993tt shifter is a mechanical linkage with shift forks, whereas the 997's (and 996's) all use a cable linkage. The 993 linkage transfers a fair amount of drivetrain vibration to the shift ****, which gives the driver more tactile input of the rpms, synchros and gears meshing, etc. The cable linkage feels pretty dead by comparison. I think this is no small factor in some of the isolation that some enthusiasts complain about.
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short throw shifters have to be the #1 first mod, they add driver communication and well as shorter throws. I can't recall much diff between my 996tt and 993tt shifters, maybe I'm getting old....lol
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can anyone help me out...what would i need to do to get the short throw put in at the dealership? Just go in and say, give me the short shifter? Or do i need to order all kinds of weird parts and do it myself?
Old 01-21-2008 | 10:26 AM
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I got the B&M SS, absolutely love it! Really brings out the race car feel along with a aftermarket exhaust transforms the car into a whole new beast. I just bought mine at bumperplugs and got it installed at my body shop.
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I got the B&M also, and it is top-notch. The dealership has a factory version you can buy as well. Good results either way
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Originally Posted by StickShift964
can anyone help me out...what would i need to do to get the short throw put in at the dealership? Just go in and say, give me the short shifter? Or do i need to order all kinds of weird parts and do it myself?
You can get the B&M or Porsche short shift kit. It would take you about 1.5 to 2 hours to install it yourself. B&M racing has a great set of instructions on how to do this.

BTW - no weird parts needed!
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To each his own, I consider the slop and vibration on my 993 as unrefined feeling more than feedback. I think the SSK on the 997 is just the right amount of throw and heft. But I will say that the direct shifter on my old S2000 was probably the best feeling stock shifter I've ever tried.
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Have you considered replacing the nylon bushing on the 993 linkage? Supposedly that makes a huge difference
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I got the B&M also, and it is top-notch. The dealership has a factory version you can buy as well. Good results either way
we had a 997t for a weekend that had the Short Throw option, i enjoyed it more then the regular setup on ours.

So Porsche sells a kit for after-the-fact decisions like this?
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[QUOTE=StickShift964;5009732]we had a 997t for a weekend that had the Short Throw option, i enjoyed it more then the regular setup on ours.

So Porsche sells a kit for after-the-fact decisions like this?[/QUOTE]

Yes, Porsche does have one available. However, Porsche calls it a SPORT shifter rather than a SHORT shifter. It is option code XCZ, but, unfortunately, I do not have a Porsche part number for the Sport Shifter.
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http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/me..._Code=997TURBO

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Note: gear-lever travel may be slightly restricted when the car is started from cold.


anyone notice this on <30*f mornings?
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Blair, if you end up doing the SSK but don't wanna install it by yourself, there's always an indoor parking spot, tools, and an extra set of hands in the city!
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sounds good, i gotta stop at the dealership and "shift" a 997 with the SSK, i forget how it felt....then I'm going to decide from there.



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