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Old 08-04-2007, 02:28 PM
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It's all in the details.

Using the proper chemicals, and spending the time is essential.

No onder why we go through so much- what we realy like is it in motion-we will have to redo it again as soon as its driven.

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Old 08-04-2007, 05:48 PM
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I would go take a look at the Autopia forums. Lots of good opinions and tips there.
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Originally Posted by eclou
I would go take a look at the Autopia forums. Lots of good opinions and tips there.

forgot about them.... had a great tip for paint touch ups too. very good
Old 08-04-2007, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rmira
For those that have dark color cars, are very fine scratches, only visible at certain angles in bright light unavoidable? I have a midnight blue TT, like most dark colors, beautiful when clean and freshly waxed, but a bitch to keep clean.
Yes.

Anyone who goes on about clay bars.....this technique and that.......does not have a day job.

I stopped trying to 'fix' issue a few years back and have adapted good 'cover' techniques......looks good, and I'm pretty **** about the cars.
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Originally Posted by GreggT
Yes.

Anyone who goes on about clay bars.....this technique and that.......does not have a day job.

I stopped trying to 'fix' issue a few years back and have adapted good 'cover' techniques......looks good, and I'm pretty **** about the cars.
Not sure what you're talking about but I can clay my car in about 20 minutes which I may do 2-3 times a year. The right "technique" also does not take any more time than washing your car with muddy rain water and an old pair of jeans full of buttons and zippers.

Oh, I do have a day job.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by E55AMG
Not sure what you're talking about but I can clay my car in about 20 minutes which I may do 2-3 times a year. The right "technique" also does not take any more times than washing your car with muddy rain water and an old pair of jeans full of buttons and zippers.

Oh, I do have a day job.
Sorry....didn't mean to get the dander up........my blacks are daily drivers.....summer/winter.....& possibly washed as much as 3 times a week (after the 12 hour day).....We all develop stuff that works & fits our lifestyles.....congrats to you on getting a good system down....I will concede it is the 'right' way.
Also,that the old jeans with buttons and zippers should be avoided....cheers
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Originally Posted by E55AMG
Not sure what you're talking about but I can clay my car in about 20 minutes which I may do 2-3 times a year. The right "technique" also does not take any more time than washing your car with muddy rain water and an old pair of jeans full of buttons and zippers.

Oh, I do have a day job.
less time to wash & dry a well waxed car than one that's not. wax my black 993 (whole car) about 6 plus times a year. 10mins to wash & dry max.

ps: wtf's a day job?
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Originally Posted by GreggT
Sorry....didn't mean to get the dander up........my blacks are daily drivers.....summer/winter.....& possibly washed as much as 3 times a week (after the 12 hour day).....We all develop stuff that works & fits our lifestyles.....congrats to you on getting a good system down....I will concede it is the 'right' way.
Also,that the old jeans with buttons and zippers should be avoided....cheers
No problem Just want people to know who are interested in caring for their car (it's actually "fun" for me) that the right technique and products will help reduce micro-marring and not take much longer.

A black DD? I don't envy you LOL! Mine isn't a DD and I still chickened out with getting black. My last 3 cars I thought about black but that's as far as it went.
Old 08-06-2007, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 24FPS
fwiw: give the newer machine polish 4 by Griot's a try... amazing for black & dark colors... imho. (no aff'l etc.) i use that & follow w/ best of show carnuba.
Do you use Griots random orbital polisher?

Thanks
Old 08-06-2007, 06:19 PM
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Griot's orbital polisher is made by Porter Cable and you can buy it much cheaper outside of Griots
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Originally Posted by eclou
Griot's orbital polisher is made by Porter Cable and you can buy it much cheaper outside of Griots
right you are... rmira : i would still stick to griot's pads & polish system. the quality IS there & shows up in the paint... big time

fwiw: my big learning "tip" was to use a pad & mf towel for each grade of product & take time. results can be amazing w/ dark colors. get a few good wax coats on there & you'll be pretty protected & can touch up areas when needed through the year. real simple.

(again no aff'l... just into detailing my pcars, as it was my job working thru school)---> enjoy it... weird?
Old 08-12-2007, 12:22 PM
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no time to read every post here, so let me just say this regarding scratches. I had a Carbon Black M5, which loved to show me new ways to get fine scratches. So my dumb *** finally figured it out, it was not so much in the washing (yes that is important) but in the drying! Leave the car where you washed it (ie no driving around to toss-off the excess), use a synthetic chamois to remove excess water and dab, no wipe! with a trimmed thick terry cloth extra large bath towel(remove all of those nasty edges that are not terry cloth). THat stopped the scratching on the soft CB. Removing what you got, thats another story. Good luck! Miss my P-Car and I cry to sleep every night thinking about it!
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Originally Posted by Terry Adams
+1 on the clay bar and the proper wash method. I will give Rejex a try when my car comes in.
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Just an update:

After many attempts I've given up. The swirl marks, towel mars, spider scratches, whatever you want to call them are still there. I've carefully followed the advice of a well known supplier of car detailing stuff: bought the polisher, different grits of polish, clay bar, micro-fiber towels, etc., etc. (I'll not name the company, because I believe they've done their level best). I've come to three conclusions:

1. I and the dealer have so f*d up the car before I started this process that it is beyond a 'detailing' procedure to fix.

2. I'm completely incompetent.

3. Some degree of mars, scratches, marks are unavoidable and dare I say acceptable. For example, I picked one spot on my car, worked on it late into the night, shone a halogen light on the spot and it looked like I had it licked. NOPE, in the bright sunlight of the following day, looking at the same sport at a very specific angle - THERE THEY WERE.

The good news, I sure did learn a lot about detailing a car.

P.S. Anyone know of a 'concours' detailer in the Western North Carolina area!


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