Porsche releases residual data
#16
Originally Posted by jason1st
But to get out of the lease you need to find someone to pay the buyout price. I have leased cars throgh my company for 10 years and never found anyone willing to the the buyout price. Nor have I found a dealer who would terminate my lease to get me into another car without it costing me a lot of money.
How do you get out of a 5 year lease after 2 years?? If the bak has you signed for 5 it's not in their best intrest to let you out eassily.
How do you get out of a 5 year lease after 2 years?? If the bak has you signed for 5 it's not in their best intrest to let you out eassily.
If you only keep cars a couple or three years like I do this is the best way to go IMHO.
#17
355spider,
Are all of these cars you lease used when you lease them?? If so, I can see how that would work. I've never been able to get good lease rates on used cars. It's always cheaper for me to get them new.
Any more info would be appreciated.
Do you live in Texas?
Jason
Are all of these cars you lease used when you lease them?? If so, I can see how that would work. I've never been able to get good lease rates on used cars. It's always cheaper for me to get them new.
Any more info would be appreciated.
Do you live in Texas?
Jason
#18
Originally Posted by 355Spider
I leased my 355 for 60 months and sold it for the 1K less than the buyout price 16 months late. It helps to pick cars that won't depreciate too much. I leased two M3s and sold them each after 2 years. It usually takes about 2.5 years to get even in a 60 month lease from my experience. But if you are trading in that's probably 3.5 years. I sell mine outright thru Lambo Dallas, for a small fee, who stores my tax credit and then I buy my next one.
If you only keep cars a couple or three years like I do this is the best way to go IMHO.
If you only keep cars a couple or three years like I do this is the best way to go IMHO.
#19
Originally Posted by jason1st
But to get out of the lease you need to find someone to pay the buyout price. I have leased cars throgh my company for 10 years and never found anyone willing to the the buyout price. Nor have I found a dealer who would terminate my lease to get me into another car without it costing me a lot of money.
How do you get out of a 5 year lease after 2 years?? If the bak has you signed for 5 it's not in their best intrest to let you out eassily.
How do you get out of a 5 year lease after 2 years?? If the bak has you signed for 5 it's not in their best intrest to let you out eassily.
#20
Here is the general rule I came up with..
If your going to keep the car long term or put a lot of mileage on, buy it, either for cash or finance depending on the finance deal. (as stated, keep the cash earning 10% in an investment and pay the 5% financing charge, you still get 5% working for you in the back, stock, etc.)
For your daily driver, lease it. You can get into a new car every three years. (Unless of course you put a lot of mileage on the car.) If the car is in a bad but not totaled accident, as long as you have it fixed, you don't have to worry about the 2-3 panel accident depreciation. The lease company has to take it back with no penalty.
Here in California we don't get a tax credit for trade in's so it makes little sense to own the daily driver. Better off only paying the tax on the part of the car you borrow rather than on the full purchase price.
Now for a car like a 997TT which I assume for most is a second car. It makes no sense to lease because you won't use the 12,000 miles a year anyway. So why pay for it. That is what the bank is charging you for, 12,000 miles. So if you only use $5K, you just wasted $$$$ on the 7000 miles you never used.
If you flip cars all the time like 355, I have no advice for you. You probably get creamed but who cares, you have a new car every year..
B
If your going to keep the car long term or put a lot of mileage on, buy it, either for cash or finance depending on the finance deal. (as stated, keep the cash earning 10% in an investment and pay the 5% financing charge, you still get 5% working for you in the back, stock, etc.)
For your daily driver, lease it. You can get into a new car every three years. (Unless of course you put a lot of mileage on the car.) If the car is in a bad but not totaled accident, as long as you have it fixed, you don't have to worry about the 2-3 panel accident depreciation. The lease company has to take it back with no penalty.
Here in California we don't get a tax credit for trade in's so it makes little sense to own the daily driver. Better off only paying the tax on the part of the car you borrow rather than on the full purchase price.
Now for a car like a 997TT which I assume for most is a second car. It makes no sense to lease because you won't use the 12,000 miles a year anyway. So why pay for it. That is what the bank is charging you for, 12,000 miles. So if you only use $5K, you just wasted $$$$ on the 7000 miles you never used.
If you flip cars all the time like 355, I have no advice for you. You probably get creamed but who cares, you have a new car every year..
B
#21
Originally Posted by B-Line
Here is the general rule I came up with..
If your going to keep the car long term or put a lot of mileage on, but it, either for cash or finance depending on the finance deal.
For your daily driver, lease it. You can get into a new car every three years. (Unless of course you put a lot of mileage on the car.)
Here in California we don't get a tax credit for trade in's so it makes little sense to own the daily driver. Better off only paying the tax on the part of the car you borrow rather than on the full purchase price.
Now for a car like a 997TT which I assume for most is a second car. It makes no sense to lease because you won't use the 12,000 miles a year anyway. So why pay for it. That is what the bank is charging you for, 12,000 miles. So if you only use $5K, you just wasted $$$$ on the 7000 miles you never used.
If you flip cars all the time like 355, I have no advice for you. You probably get creamed but who cares, you have a new car every year..
B
If your going to keep the car long term or put a lot of mileage on, but it, either for cash or finance depending on the finance deal.
For your daily driver, lease it. You can get into a new car every three years. (Unless of course you put a lot of mileage on the car.)
Here in California we don't get a tax credit for trade in's so it makes little sense to own the daily driver. Better off only paying the tax on the part of the car you borrow rather than on the full purchase price.
Now for a car like a 997TT which I assume for most is a second car. It makes no sense to lease because you won't use the 12,000 miles a year anyway. So why pay for it. That is what the bank is charging you for, 12,000 miles. So if you only use $5K, you just wasted $$$$ on the 7000 miles you never used.
If you flip cars all the time like 355, I have no advice for you. You probably get creamed but who cares, you have a new car every year..
B
#23
Lease trader and swaplease are always more expensive than just going to the dealer and leasing a brand new one. Why lease a 2 year old car for $1300 a month when I can go to the dealer and get a brand new one for $1000?
Still like to here back from you 355spider.
Still like to here back from you 355spider.
#24
Originally Posted by jason1st
355spider,
Are all of these cars you lease used when you lease them?? If so, I can see how that would work. I've never been able to get good lease rates on used cars. It's always cheaper for me to get them new.
Any more info would be appreciated.
Do you live in Texas?
Jason
Are all of these cars you lease used when you lease them?? If so, I can see how that would work. I've never been able to get good lease rates on used cars. It's always cheaper for me to get them new.
Any more info would be appreciated.
Do you live in Texas?
Jason
#29
B, I agree mostly with you re leasing. But how could you lease a car like a TT and not drive it everyday?
Hell, I put 50k on my C4S, I think I got my monies worth! For tax reasons I probably will lease mine(997TT) and drive it daily, trick is to keep it within the miles limit
ch
Hell, I put 50k on my C4S, I think I got my monies worth! For tax reasons I probably will lease mine(997TT) and drive it daily, trick is to keep it within the miles limit
ch
#30
Originally Posted by B-Line
...Here in California we don't get a tax credit for trade in's ...