Lowering my 997 Turbo
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As far as lowering springs and PASM: We've done two 997S cars with Cargraphic springs and so far have had no issues related to the springs. Both customers were actually very pleased with the results. Can't speak to the 997TT's system...
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Picked up my car yesterday. I think I may have to take a trip to get the 2000 mile break-in out of the way. It is hard to force myself to keep it under 4200 rpm.
Now that I have it in person, it could really stand to drop by about an inch. The ride is cady smooth so I wouldn't mind compromising there. Anyone have any real experience with lowering yet?
Now that I have it in person, it could really stand to drop by about an inch. The ride is cady smooth so I wouldn't mind compromising there. Anyone have any real experience with lowering yet?
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c47 surgeon is right on. you can't just put lowering springs on the car, if the rate doesnt match well with valving, the car will not drive right and your shox will blow out sooner than later. i am not saying you can't do it, you just need to find springs that are developed by "reputable" tuners. and the aftermkt car industry is full of BS. took me 6 months to get something really really well developed on my cayman S ;-)
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After 30 years of 911 driving I have found that generally Porsche optimizes the suspensions better than anyone else. To lower it will truly compromise the handling. But, that is ultimately the trade with a lot of folks,--looks versus handling.
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Originally Posted by Edgy01
After 30 years of 911 driving I have found that generally Porsche optimizes the suspensions better than anyone else. To lower it will truly compromise the handling. But, that is ultimately the trade with a lot of folks,--looks versus handling.
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Porsche sends us a watered down version of what the suspensions should be. As far as dialing in the cars handling, no offense, but you are off your rocker if you think you are getting a better suspension than anyone else can provide.
-- Don't believe me, come take a drive in my 97 911. I have a full H&R Coilover setup. You wouldn't believe the difference a real suspension makes. My car is night and day from when I bought it. And if I'm not being clear, it is BETTER NOW.. With my aftermarket suspension.
You will find that doing a after market suspension not only improves the look of the car but also, more importantly, if done correctly, VASTLY improves the handling characteristics. -- A stock suspension is soft, flimsy, made for the "mom's who need to pick up the kids from soccer practice" ... Any true "driver" will often quickly opt to change that first on a PCAR.. Don't believe me, come to the track one day and ask anyone there who pushes there pcar to 8/10's or 9/10's or 10/10's of there abilities...
But stay away from the guys who go 11/10's they have more money than brains and skill, lol...
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A stock suspension is soft, flimsy, made for the "mom's who need to pick up the kids from soccer practice" ... Any true "driver" will often quickly opt to change that first on a PCAR.. Don't believe me, come to the track one day and ask anyone there who pushes there pcar to 8/10's or 9/10's or 10/10's of there abilities...
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we will see soon ... i had 997 with pss9 the car was 3 seconds a lap faster with stock suspension.
i dont know but times dont really lie... car was more panted better turn in , better undder hard braking ...
but i only put 5000 track miles on the car 2000 without suspension 3000 with suspension.
i dont know but times dont really lie... car was more panted better turn in , better undder hard braking ...
but i only put 5000 track miles on the car 2000 without suspension 3000 with suspension.
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Originally Posted by 930man
we will see soon ... i had 997 with pss9 the car was 3 seconds a lap faster with stock suspension.
i dont know but times dont really lie... car was more panted better turn in , better undder hard braking ...
but i only put 5000 track miles on the car 2000 without suspension 3000 with suspension.
i dont know but times dont really lie... car was more panted better turn in , better undder hard braking ...
but i only put 5000 track miles on the car 2000 without suspension 3000 with suspension.
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Thanks for the correction...
I was really questioning what I believed to be true after reading your first post. I was going to ask you why it is that RSR's and other race cars dont use stock street suspension if it is better and faster.
I was really questioning what I believed to be true after reading your first post. I was going to ask you why it is that RSR's and other race cars dont use stock street suspension if it is better and faster.
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Originally Posted by Edgy01
After 30 years of 911 driving I have found that generally Porsche optimizes the suspensions better than anyone else. To lower it will truly compromise the handling.
Plus I'm upgrading my 993 with the same M030 sport suspension as Porsche ships in Europe. Is that compromising my handling?
Enquiring minds want to know!
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