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Old 11-29-2017, 06:29 PM
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Is the new owner of this car anyone here?

https://hoffmanporsche.com/inventory...tallic+1513227

I was just down at the dealer picking mine up from service and saw the Sold tag on this beauty in the showroom. SA mentioned it was an out of state buyer. Gorgeous spec.
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Strong money for a higher mile 2012. CPO + 6 speed adds some value.
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Originally Posted by JG 996T
Strong money for a higher mile 2012. CPO + 6 speed adds some value.
I'm surprised that there is such a large pricing gap between .1 and .2 Turbos. With .1s selling in the low $70s, they seem underpriced to me (like the '09 currently in the Marketplace).
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Originally Posted by Rambler_13
I'm surprised that there is such a large pricing gap between .1 and .2 Turbos. With .1s selling in the low $70s, they seem underpriced to me (like the '09 currently in the Marketplace).
Only 488 out there...
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The .2s were improved in a lot of ways (better suspension, better interior, more power, no coolant lines/camshaft issues), and they're a few years newer (most .1s are 07s; .2s are at least 2010s, and 2012 is still pretty "new"). Not to mention the scarcity on the 6mt coupes. The one in the OP is a pretty strong price though, I'm impressed if it sold near that.

That 09 in the marketplace seems a little high to me with those miles, honestly, and I say that as someone with nearly the same car. Fixed coolant pipes and new clutch are nice perks, granted.
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How is the "suspension" different?
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Improvements to PASM from lessons learned with their first attempt, plus optional Torque Vectoring.

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  1. Stiffer rear spring
  2. Stiffer anti sway bar: Front bar only for cars without PTV, front AND rear for cars with PTV.
  3. Stiffer rear bushing to "control lateral movement."
  4. PTV: Reduces understeer (increases oversteer).
  5. PTM: More gradual change and more rear bias; in essence the car behaves more like a RWD car in corners.
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Originally Posted by Skwerl
The .2s were improved in a lot of ways (better suspension, better interior, more power, no coolant lines/camshaft issues), and they're a few years newer (most .1s are 07s; .2s are at least 2010s, and 2012 is still pretty "new"). Not to mention the scarcity on the 6mt coupes. The one in the OP is a pretty strong price though, I'm impressed if it sold near that.

That 09 in the marketplace seems a little high to me with those miles, honestly, and I say that as someone with nearly the same car. Fixed coolant pipes and new clutch are nice perks, granted.
Makes sense and believe me, as an '11 owner myself, I want to see values stay strong, including with prior gens.
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Interesting. Porsche use the GT2 RS rear bar?

(that's what a lot of .1 guys use).
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Originally Posted by Skwerl
Improvements to PASM from lessons learned with their first attempt, plus optional Torque Vectoring.

Quick rundown copy/pasted:
Aren't there also dynamic engine mounts that stiffen up to prevent engine moving weight transfer as well in the sport chrono option?
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Originally Posted by Dodaleca
Aren't there also dynamic engine mounts that stiffen up to prevent engine moving weight transfer as well in the sport chrono option?
Yeah, I wasn't sure if that was standard or part of the Torque Vectoring or Sport Chrono package or what, but that's another nice improvement that really modernizes the platform.
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If you drive a stock .1 and .2 back to back it's very noticeable.
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Originally Posted by JG 996T
Strong money for a higher mile 2012. CPO + 6 speed adds some value.
Indeed. Especially since the dealer most likely acquired it for about $90K.That was the listing price at an Illinois Porsche dealer a few months (2) back. Went from one to the other with a $20k price jump. Price inflation tactics maybe.
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This car was listed high but could have easily sold for "only" $103k or so... The listed price on the 2012 I bought 2 years ago was MUCH higher than what I paid.
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I looked up that vin and it was sold for 90K to them and they marked it to 112.Pretty hefty mark up.


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