997.1 GT3 RS vs GT3 RS 4.0
06-26-2017, 04:07 PM
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997.1 GT3 RS vs GT3 RS 4.0
I apologize if this has been discussed previously. But after searching for a long time I didn't find any in depth comparisons.
Apart from a bit more torque lower in RPM, are there any major differences between the two? Someone described the .1 as a great road and trackable car, and the 4.0 as a completely different level - more like a race car. To what level is this statement accurate? And how much overlap between the two cars?
Is the difference in torque very noticeable?
I read a 4.0 owner's comment stating that while cruising at 1-3k, he'd have to shift down to be able to overtake? I've seen torque charts for both models, and the torque curve for the 4.0 seems a lot more linear (at least that's what I understood from looking at it), so why is this?
Something else I've been thinking about is steering. Did Porsche upgrade the steering column for the 4.0, and if so does it provide more feel and feedback than the 3.6?
Thanks in advance.
Apart from a bit more torque lower in RPM, are there any major differences between the two? Someone described the .1 as a great road and trackable car, and the 4.0 as a completely different level - more like a race car. To what level is this statement accurate? And how much overlap between the two cars?
Is the difference in torque very noticeable?
I read a 4.0 owner's comment stating that while cruising at 1-3k, he'd have to shift down to be able to overtake? I've seen torque charts for both models, and the torque curve for the 4.0 seems a lot more linear (at least that's what I understood from looking at it), so why is this?
Something else I've been thinking about is steering. Did Porsche upgrade the steering column for the 4.0, and if so does it provide more feel and feedback than the 3.6?
Thanks in advance.
06-29-2017, 04:26 AM
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the 4.0 is NOTHIGN like the 3.8
i 2 3.8RS and 1 4.0RS at the same time.
when on rack side be side, you be amazed at the many little different thinngs
porsche doesn't publish them
4.0 is better than 3.8 in every category not just torque.
that said, at today's prices, i am not sure 4.0 makes sense. but at respective msrp in 2011. you would have to be an idiot to buy a 3.8 at msrp over 4.0 at msrp.
i 2 3.8RS and 1 4.0RS at the same time.
when on rack side be side, you be amazed at the many little different thinngs
porsche doesn't publish them
4.0 is better than 3.8 in every category not just torque.
that said, at today's prices, i am not sure 4.0 makes sense. but at respective msrp in 2011. you would have to be an idiot to buy a 3.8 at msrp over 4.0 at msrp.
06-29-2017, 07:12 AM
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the 4.0 is NOTHIGN like the 3.8
i 2 3.8RS and 1 4.0RS at the same time.
when on rack side be side, you be amazed at the many little different thinngs
porsche doesn't publish them
4.0 is better than 3.8 in every category not just torque.
that said, at today's prices, i am not sure 4.0 makes sense. but at respective msrp in 2011. you would have to be an idiot to buy a 3.8 at msrp over 4.0 at msrp.
i 2 3.8RS and 1 4.0RS at the same time.
when on rack side be side, you be amazed at the many little different thinngs
porsche doesn't publish them
4.0 is better than 3.8 in every category not just torque.
that said, at today's prices, i am not sure 4.0 makes sense. but at respective msrp in 2011. you would have to be an idiot to buy a 3.8 at msrp over 4.0 at msrp.
06-29-2017, 12:52 PM
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the 4.0 is NOTHIGN like the 3.8
i 2 3.8RS and 1 4.0RS at the same time.
when on rack side be side, you be amazed at the many little different thinngs
porsche doesn't publish them
4.0 is better than 3.8 in every category not just torque.
that said, at today's prices, i am not sure 4.0 makes sense. but at respective msrp in 2011. you would have to be an idiot to buy a 3.8 at msrp over 4.0 at msrp.
i 2 3.8RS and 1 4.0RS at the same time.
when on rack side be side, you be amazed at the many little different thinngs
porsche doesn't publish them
4.0 is better than 3.8 in every category not just torque.
that said, at today's prices, i am not sure 4.0 makes sense. but at respective msrp in 2011. you would have to be an idiot to buy a 3.8 at msrp over 4.0 at msrp.
06-29-2017, 01:27 PM
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I apologize if this has been discussed previously. But after searching for a long time I didn't find any in depth comparisons.
Apart from a bit more torque lower in RPM, are there any major differences between the two? Someone described the .1 as a great road and trackable car, and the 4.0 as a completely different level - more like a race car. To what level is this statement accurate? And how much overlap between the two cars?
Is the difference in torque very noticeable?
I read a 4.0 owner's comment stating that while cruising at 1-3k, he'd have to shift down to be able to overtake? I've seen torque charts for both models, and the torque curve for the 4.0 seems a lot more linear (at least that's what I understood from looking at it), so why is this?
Something else I've been thinking about is steering. Did Porsche upgrade the steering column for the 4.0, and if so does it provide more feel and feedback than the 3.6?
Thanks in advance.
Apart from a bit more torque lower in RPM, are there any major differences between the two? Someone described the .1 as a great road and trackable car, and the 4.0 as a completely different level - more like a race car. To what level is this statement accurate? And how much overlap between the two cars?
Is the difference in torque very noticeable?
I read a 4.0 owner's comment stating that while cruising at 1-3k, he'd have to shift down to be able to overtake? I've seen torque charts for both models, and the torque curve for the 4.0 seems a lot more linear (at least that's what I understood from looking at it), so why is this?
Something else I've been thinking about is steering. Did Porsche upgrade the steering column for the 4.0, and if so does it provide more feel and feedback than the 3.6?
Thanks in advance.
06-29-2017, 04:03 PM
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I assumed 3.8 & 4.0 would have identical/very similar steering systems, which seems to be the case.
As mooty confirmed that 4.0 is a step up from the 3.8, which was already a significant step up from 3.6.
Wondering if anyone has info about the ratios of 3.6 and 3.8/4.0...?
06-29-2017, 04:07 PM
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Correct.
I assumed 3.8 & 4.0 would have identical/very similar steering systems, which seems to be the case.
As mooty confirmed that 4.0 is a step up from the 3.8, which was already a significant step up from 3.6.
Wondering if anyone has info about the ratios of 3.6 and 3.8/4.0...?
I assumed 3.8 & 4.0 would have identical/very similar steering systems, which seems to be the case.
As mooty confirmed that 4.0 is a step up from the 3.8, which was already a significant step up from 3.6.
Wondering if anyone has info about the ratios of 3.6 and 3.8/4.0...?
peer, whereas the 3.8 and 4.0 had significant differences in engine, transmission and suspension (and in the case of the 4.0 also lw bodywork)
any GT3 or RS is special, but I still regret not getting a 3.8L RS when there was a chance of one...
I'd love a 4.0 but by the time I got out of prison for the bank job I'd have to pull in order to afford one, they'd have to bury me in it...
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I would gladly trade my 3.6RS and 3.8RS +$100K for a 4.0, if there are any takers please pm me.
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06-30-2017, 01:27 AM
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if one wants to cerebrally compare 3.8 vs 4.0, we can be here all day for the rest of our lives and never reach conclusion. go drive them, it's VERY CLEAR what is what. it's just that today's prices makes 4.0 a bit out of reality
06-30-2017, 11:22 AM
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the 4.0 is NOTHIGN like the 3.8
i 2 3.8RS and 1 4.0RS at the same time.
when on rack side be side, you be amazed at the many little different thinngs
porsche doesn't publish them
4.0 is better than 3.8 in every category not just torque.
that said, at today's prices, i am not sure 4.0 makes sense. but at respective msrp in 2011. you would have to be an idiot to buy a 3.8 at msrp over 4.0 at msrp.
i 2 3.8RS and 1 4.0RS at the same time.
when on rack side be side, you be amazed at the many little different thinngs
porsche doesn't publish them
4.0 is better than 3.8 in every category not just torque.
that said, at today's prices, i am not sure 4.0 makes sense. but at respective msrp in 2011. you would have to be an idiot to buy a 3.8 at msrp over 4.0 at msrp.
Admittedly I haven't had a lot of experience in the 3.8 but have run the 2 cars back to back on the road (not track) and the 4.0 while better by a tad throughout was still imo a very similar car to the 3.8. While you'd always buy the 4.0 over the 3.8 at MSRP, equally I think the current prices of the 4.0 over the 3.8 are nonsensical.
