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Old 10-14-2015, 04:07 PM
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Default Need some thoughts on DME report for a .2 GT3

Stay away? or It's okay?

Here is the report:

Operating hours counter: 416
Range 1: 547 337.9h
Range 2: 419 167.8h
Range 3: 387 167.8h
Range 4: 356 167.8h
Range 5: 319 167.8h
Range 6: --- ---
Overall though other than that the PPI looks decent. I'd like your input.
Old 10-14-2015, 05:51 PM
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That was a serious mis-shift, the engine spun at 10-11K RPMs in Range 5. That's valve float territory... It was a while ago but nevertheless that's painful. For me it would depend on the rest of the car and price. If you really, really like the car you might want to ask for a compression and leak down tests to be done by a very well qualified mechanic.
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It's all a matter of risk and reward. If the price is significantly less than market and the compression and leak down come back positive it may be worth it. Just remember, you'll also take it in the shorts when it's time for you to sell it.
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Originally Posted by BartN (TX)
It's all a matter of risk and reward. If the price is significantly less than market and the compression and leak down come back positive it may be worth it. Just remember, you'll also take it in the shorts when it's time for you to sell it.
The guy is asking 124k which seems at market. What would be fair?

I don't mind taking a slight risk, just not a major risk.
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Is there such a low supply that there are no other choices? I wouldn't buy a car that has stage 5 no matter how many hrs have been put on it since the incident. Wonder what else has been abused on it?
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I have mine up for sale right now asking slightly less then 124k, if youre interested let me know!

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...997-2-gt3.html
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Originally Posted by paver
Is there such a low supply that there are no other choices? I wouldn't buy a car that has stage 5 no matter how many hrs have been put on it since the incident. Wonder what else has been abused on it?
Well the particular car with that DME report is local to me and it looked good color wise / option wise. That's why I was asking. If there was another one in a good color in good shape j would definitely go for that.
Old 10-14-2015, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bk_911
Well the particular car with that DME report is local to me and it looked good color wise / option wise. That's why I was asking. If there was another one in a good color in good shape j would definitely go for that.
i'd walk away from that one and look for something with a clean(er) DME report. especially at that price and even if that meant looking out of state. i got mine out of Florida and had it transported out to CA. it had clean DME (0 overrevs) and a PPI was done, but i still flew out to look it over. so yea, you may need to factor in a trip and shipping cost.

kchu's car looks nice and i'm sure there are others out there too. are you looking for some rare color and/or options?
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I would not drive that without a top-end job - which runs 24-30K. Discount accordingly.
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i would definitely pass and look for another
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I would not feel comfortable purchasing that car unless it was $30K below others.

Yes, the operating hours indicate it was a long time ago, and all seems well but these engines are not cheap, and I would be very careful. I would suggest a compression test at bare minimum. Still, I'd be weary. Range 5 is high!
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$60k i will take it
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My car has range 5 overrevs. Really no big deal. There are many hours after the overrev. This is not a problem at all. Drive it, see how it accelerates and how it revs in neutral.

There is way too much concern for overrevs around here. Really, much ado about nothing if the engine has so many hours after the incident. My car pulls harder than it did a year ago. Drive it, if you like it, have the PPI done, then buy it. Range 6 is never good, but range 5 can be bad or not. In this case it seems to be alright.
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Originally Posted by 997s07
My car has range 5 overrevs. Really no big deal. There are many hours after the overrev. This is not a problem at all. Drive it, see how it accelerates and how it revs in neutral.

There is way too much concern for overrevs around here. Really, much ado about nothing if the engine has so many hours after the incident. My car pulls harder than it did a year ago. Drive it, if you like it, have the PPI done, then buy it. Range 6 is never good, but range 5 can be bad or not. In this case it seems to be alright.
Wrong. That's a money shift, plain and simple. Your *** can't decipher a 10% drop bank to bank.

Get a compression test at bare minimum and I still wouldn't risk it. Unless you're okay forking out $20-$40 grand (don't forget core charge) for an engine.
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A Porsche engine builder told me one of the potential problems with a high range over-rev is rod stretch. So if there is engine damage, it may not be just a problem related to the valves, but also to the engine block internal components. And how one evaluates for that possibility in an engine that seems to be running OK without tearing the motor down and measuring the rods may not be possible. I have no idea how long and hard an engine has to run to prove it was not hurt.

I suspect each circumstance is unique to a motor, and what over-rev RPM may cause damage may be variable. I presume PDK motors won't allow this to happen. I have no opinion as to the value of the GT3 in question.

I am only repeating here what a respected Porsche mechanic told me. I am no flat six powerplant expert.

All the best...

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