Manthey's 4.4l Mezger for GT3 announced
#31
Thanks..the price is indeed high - very high. But I knew already since longer time that such an engine was coming up. Manthey is very expensive..but what they do..turns into gold.
I really wonder how long they will offer these kits..because Manthey is actually now Porsche!..its only a question of time...
What I was just thinking - buy a 3.8 with 10,000 miles..invest the 65K€ for the engine..and you will end up with a car that destroys anything - literally anything. I dont think any 3.8RS or 4.0 will stand any chance..even a GT2RS might fear for his life..
Man, that must be a blast to drive..
I really wonder how long they will offer these kits..because Manthey is actually now Porsche!..its only a question of time...
What I was just thinking - buy a 3.8 with 10,000 miles..invest the 65K€ for the engine..and you will end up with a car that destroys anything - literally anything. I dont think any 3.8RS or 4.0 will stand any chance..even a GT2RS might fear for his life..
Man, that must be a blast to drive..
#32
Thanks..the price is indeed high - very high. But I knew already since longer time that such an engine was coming up. Manthey is very expensive..but what they do..turns into gold.
I really wonder how long they will offer these kits..because Manthey is actually now Porsche!..its only a question of time...
What I was just thinking - buy a 3.8 with 10,000 miles..invest the 65K€ for the engine..and you will end up with a car that destroys anything - literally anything. I dont think any 3.8RS or 4.0 will stand any chance..even a GT2RS might fear for his life..
Man, that must be a blast to drive..
I really wonder how long they will offer these kits..because Manthey is actually now Porsche!..its only a question of time...
What I was just thinking - buy a 3.8 with 10,000 miles..invest the 65K€ for the engine..and you will end up with a car that destroys anything - literally anything. I dont think any 3.8RS or 4.0 will stand any chance..even a GT2RS might fear for his life..
Man, that must be a blast to drive..
#33
normal GT2? for sure - 530HP in the GT3 are much better to drive compared to the 530HP from the GT2..not that the GT2 has a turbo lag..but the GT3 has a much better rev band..on a small circuit the GT3 would need less shifting + the weight saving over the turbo engine- so I dont see any reason why a GT2 (as much as I love it) could be better.
OK..Gt2RS..well maybe it will be "tortured a bit"..but I think in the end youre correct..no "life threatening situation"..
OK..Gt2RS..well maybe it will be "tortured a bit"..but I think in the end youre correct..no "life threatening situation"..
#34
normal GT2? for sure - 530HP in the GT3 are much better to drive compared to the 530HP from the GT2..not that the GT2 has a turbo lag..but the GT3 has a much better rev band..on a small circuit the GT3 would need less shifting + the weight saving over the turbo engine- so I dont see any reason why a GT2 (as much as I love it) could be better.
OK..Gt2RS..well maybe it will be "tortured a bit"..but I think in the end youre correct..no "life threatening situation"..
OK..Gt2RS..well maybe it will be "tortured a bit"..but I think in the end youre correct..no "life threatening situation"..
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Price varies on condition of your motor and what needs to be done. If you are higher mileage, a bottom end refresh is suggested. Also have options what you want to do, so figure 25-35k depending what is needed and what you want.
And its not just a bump to 3.9, Alex addresses everything and doesnt let these cars leave the shop not fully sorted. That means better motor mounts, pinning the coolant pipes, doing the diff, etc
And its not just a bump to 3.9, Alex addresses everything and doesnt let these cars leave the shop not fully sorted. That means better motor mounts, pinning the coolant pipes, doing the diff, etc
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Wow...that's incredible! I love to see continued development for these amazing Mezger engines. The torque must be sensational with 4.4L and I suspect that power rating is reasonably conservative too.
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9400rpm - is that right, seems very high
Not wanting to put any negative slants on the US offerings (I like Sharky) but it is worth pointing out the development which Manthey and RS Tuning put into their engines before releasing them for street use. Lots of racing and engine dyno time, strip downs measurements etc etc. The RS Tuning 4.5l has a 6 month schedule.
As for how fast these are I was told the RS Tuning 4.3 GT3 street conversion which is 534PS @8400rpm and 517NM @ 5300rpm was "as fast" as a GT2 RS when track testing in Europe.....
Not wanting to put any negative slants on the US offerings (I like Sharky) but it is worth pointing out the development which Manthey and RS Tuning put into their engines before releasing them for street use. Lots of racing and engine dyno time, strip downs measurements etc etc. The RS Tuning 4.5l has a 6 month schedule.
As for how fast these are I was told the RS Tuning 4.3 GT3 street conversion which is 534PS @8400rpm and 517NM @ 5300rpm was "as fast" as a GT2 RS when track testing in Europe.....
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normal GT2? for sure - 530HP in the GT3 are much better to drive compared to the 530HP from the GT2..not that the GT2 has a turbo lag..but the GT3 has a much better rev band..on a small circuit the GT3 would need less shifting + the weight saving over the turbo engine- so I dont see any reason why a GT2 (as much as I love it) could be better.
OK..Gt2RS..well maybe it will be "tortured a bit"..but I think in the end youre correct..no "life threatening situation"..
OK..Gt2RS..well maybe it will be "tortured a bit"..but I think in the end youre correct..no "life threatening situation"..
But the TORQUE! The GT2 will still have a massive torque advantage. I think on a tight twisty track, the NA 530 hp will win. And a track with long straights, the GT2 should win. Will be close either way though.
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