991 GT2 In Doubt - C&D Article
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991 GT2 In Doubt - C&D Article
Not sure this was posted here yet... interesting ... especially the LAST comment
http://blog.caranddriver.com/toodle-...-gt2-in-doubt/
The man in charge of Porsche’s 911 program, August Achleitner, smiled when we ask him if and when we’d see the 991-generation 911 GT2. “Right now all I can say is that a decision has not been made,” he says. “There are reasons inside the company, and to write today that there will be a GT2 in the future would not be correct.”
Achleitner says that there are internal politics keeping the GT2 from being green lit, but there are also technical reasons, too. “If you take a look at today’s Turbo S and the performance this car produces . . . you cut away the front-wheel drive for the GT2, but the car loses traction,” he says. For reference, the new Turbo S’s twin-turbo 3.8-liter flat-six produces 560 horsepower and 516 lb-ft of torque, driving all four wheels, and Porsche says it’s good for a 0-to-60 run of 2.9 seconds. When you consider that the 997-generation GT2 was a full second slower to 60 than the Turbo S of the time, you can understand why Porsche may not see the necessity of building another one—especially now that the new Turbo S mill is 30-horses stronger.
But there’s hope yet for a super 991. “There are some rumors about a GT3 RS or something like this,” Achleitner tells us. We suspect that “something” is an even stronger version of the 4.0-liter flat-six of the previous-gen GT3 RS or, to quote the great Frank Ricard, maybe it’s something really cool that we don’t even know about.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/toodle-...-gt2-in-doubt/
The man in charge of Porsche’s 911 program, August Achleitner, smiled when we ask him if and when we’d see the 991-generation 911 GT2. “Right now all I can say is that a decision has not been made,” he says. “There are reasons inside the company, and to write today that there will be a GT2 in the future would not be correct.”
Achleitner says that there are internal politics keeping the GT2 from being green lit, but there are also technical reasons, too. “If you take a look at today’s Turbo S and the performance this car produces . . . you cut away the front-wheel drive for the GT2, but the car loses traction,” he says. For reference, the new Turbo S’s twin-turbo 3.8-liter flat-six produces 560 horsepower and 516 lb-ft of torque, driving all four wheels, and Porsche says it’s good for a 0-to-60 run of 2.9 seconds. When you consider that the 997-generation GT2 was a full second slower to 60 than the Turbo S of the time, you can understand why Porsche may not see the necessity of building another one—especially now that the new Turbo S mill is 30-horses stronger.
But there’s hope yet for a super 991. “There are some rumors about a GT3 RS or something like this,” Achleitner tells us. We suspect that “something” is an even stronger version of the 4.0-liter flat-six of the previous-gen GT3 RS or, to quote the great Frank Ricard, maybe it’s something really cool that we don’t even know about.
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not unsurprising when you see the residuals on the GT2 RS vs the 4.0...many people complained the '2 in its later iterations were too over-endowed and for most people, the holy grail remains the 4.0 RS.
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Time for an 8 cylinder GT3RS.
More pistons, each with less mass means higher redline.
What about 10K rpm and 4.2L?
More pistons, each with less mass means higher redline.
What about 10K rpm and 4.2L?
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I read between the lines that there will be no room either in terms of price or performance to slot a GT2 RS above the GT3 RS and Turbo S, but below the 960.
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I have been saying for two years that the GT2 RS is the most under-appreciated car built by Porsche since the 959. Maybe it really will mark a pinnacle and end of an era. Certainly seems to have massive upside in the collector world, as they are still trading at or below MSRP vs. $100-150,000 over for the 4.0, in spite of there being 100 fewer (20%!) 2RS.
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^+1..local well known/educated Porsche appraiser told me a couple weeks ago that he is seeing 996 GT2's value rising, to the point of $20k this year...imagine all 993(all-ready there) through 997.2 GT2 variants will be following this upward trend. The 991 is wicked complicated and I believe will scare off future collectors based on parts replacement costs
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Frank Ricard was way ahead of his time....
I hope they do produce a 991 GT2. The GT2, at least in my eyes, has always been a car that was that much closer to the edge of sanity. Thus the appeal.
I hope they do produce a 991 GT2. The GT2, at least in my eyes, has always been a car that was that much closer to the edge of sanity. Thus the appeal.
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I have been saying for two years that the GT2 RS is the most under-appreciated car built by Porsche since the 959. Maybe it really will mark a pinnacle and end of an era. Certainly seems to have massive upside in the collector world, as they are still trading at or below MSRP vs. $100-150,000 over for the 4.0, in spite of there being 100 fewer (20%!) 2RS.
Besides, 20% less..is a lot in these terms..and I know that only a max of 497 GT2RS remain..not 500...
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I love my GT2. Perfect Porsche for my expectations. Just insane enough to be fun, yet understated, for what it is. And with prices getting bumped up, apparently it's was a good purchase as well.
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They need to make a Turbo RS, make it more aggressive, slight hp bump, lose some weight and actually try to make it as fast as they possibly can. There is no reason an AWD Turbo S should run mid-high 7:1x at the ring.
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I think Jeff Zwart did this with his 2013 Pikes Peak car, but RWD.
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I agree use the GT3 body, the 991 TT body is horrible and adds to the weight.