Interested in learning more about GT3s
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Interested in learning more about GT3s
I have read through several searched threads on the topic, but still have some questions.
I am seeing 07-08 GT3s with very low mileage (call it sub-5k) in the $75-90k range, depending on how low of mileage, condition, options, etc. Given the rave reviews that car has received in the Porsche community, seems like a sweet spot value.
However -
What are the compelling reasons to purchase a 997.2 GT3 instead? For 100% street driving, and no track work, would the average driver notice a considerable difference in street driving? I know that there is some degree of mid-range improvement based on the larger engine, but what are the other differences?
I realize that there are some technical differences between 997.1 GT3 vs. 997.1 GT3 RS, but frankly seems largely cosmetic. I get the difference there - a little wider track, wing/aerodynamic differences, brighter colors/stickers, etc. But seems pretty much about the appearance.
My question is whether the jump to 997.2 GT3 is as night/day as some of the posts seem to imply for street driving.
Thanks!
I am seeing 07-08 GT3s with very low mileage (call it sub-5k) in the $75-90k range, depending on how low of mileage, condition, options, etc. Given the rave reviews that car has received in the Porsche community, seems like a sweet spot value.
However -
What are the compelling reasons to purchase a 997.2 GT3 instead? For 100% street driving, and no track work, would the average driver notice a considerable difference in street driving? I know that there is some degree of mid-range improvement based on the larger engine, but what are the other differences?
I realize that there are some technical differences between 997.1 GT3 vs. 997.1 GT3 RS, but frankly seems largely cosmetic. I get the difference there - a little wider track, wing/aerodynamic differences, brighter colors/stickers, etc. But seems pretty much about the appearance.
My question is whether the jump to 997.2 GT3 is as night/day as some of the posts seem to imply for street driving.
Thanks!
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With the price delta as small as it is between the .1 and .2, it is well worth it. The styling is much better, you have dynamic lights and front end lift available, bigger standard brakes, larger displacement engine with better torque (variocam on both intake and exhaust), improved suspension geometry, and most cars are still under factory warranty.
For a track car, I see no reason to move up to a .2 from a .1. In fact, a 996 provides no less fun for a much smaller price of admission.
PS The C63 black is badass. Still one of my favorite engines. I had a regular C63 coupe and sold it because it couldn't even handle the heat from aggressive street driving.
For a track car, I see no reason to move up to a .2 from a .1. In fact, a 996 provides no less fun for a much smaller price of admission.
PS The C63 black is badass. Still one of my favorite engines. I had a regular C63 coupe and sold it because it couldn't even handle the heat from aggressive street driving.
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what he said..both are great. If you are looking for just street, the lift in the .2 would be very helpful to make your driving experience less frustrating with clearance. Although the .1 has the sunroof. Both can break all speed limits enough to go to jail without shifting out of 3rd gear on the freeway.
I would buy the most uncomfortable GT3 RS with no radio and strive to make it even more ridge but I would bet the GT3 that is right for you is not so much a .1 or .2 but what options you like. There are plenty of dealer optioned cars out there. get the one you like.
I would buy the most uncomfortable GT3 RS with no radio and strive to make it even more ridge but I would bet the GT3 that is right for you is not so much a .1 or .2 but what options you like. There are plenty of dealer optioned cars out there. get the one you like.
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Enjoying my Black Series very much right now. Very different experience than the Porsches I have owned or driven. Much more a blunt instrument. Yes, has factory coilovers, etc. but so much torque with rear wheel drive and engine in front, just breaks free in almost every gear. The engine is a masterpiece and it feels faster than any car I have driven, including turbos, etc. The noises it makes are intoxicating and especially the 2013 is a rare limited numbers car.
But this is all coming up as I have been approached by a potential buyer offering top dollar. Need to decide whether to hold onto it or shift. I have always thought next Porsche I might buy (if not another 993 which has been my favorite) is the 997 GT3.
thanks for all the info, please keep coming
But this is all coming up as I have been approached by a potential buyer offering top dollar. Need to decide whether to hold onto it or shift. I have always thought next Porsche I might buy (if not another 993 which has been my favorite) is the 997 GT3.
thanks for all the info, please keep coming
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I've driven a 6.2, 7.1, and 7.1 RS. The 7s felt a bit disconnected and I'm told this is PASM, is the "feel" of PASM different in a 7.2? I know this is a very qualitative thing, but I'd be happy to hear any opinions.
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I have read through several searched threads on the topic, but still have some questions.
I am seeing 07-08 GT3s with very low mileage (call it sub-5k) in the $75-90k range, depending on how low of mileage, condition, options, etc. Given the rave reviews that car has received in the Porsche community, seems like a sweet spot value.
However -
What are the compelling reasons to purchase a 997.2 GT3 instead? For 100% street driving, and no track work, would the average driver notice a considerable difference in street driving? I know that there is some degree of mid-range improvement based on the larger engine, but what are the other differences?
I realize that there are some technical differences between 997.1 GT3 vs. 997.1 GT3 RS, but frankly seems largely cosmetic. I get the difference there - a little wider track, wing/aerodynamic differences, brighter colors/stickers, etc. But seems pretty much about the appearance.
My question is whether the jump to 997.2 GT3 is as night/day as some of the posts seem to imply for street driving.
Thanks!
I am seeing 07-08 GT3s with very low mileage (call it sub-5k) in the $75-90k range, depending on how low of mileage, condition, options, etc. Given the rave reviews that car has received in the Porsche community, seems like a sweet spot value.
However -
What are the compelling reasons to purchase a 997.2 GT3 instead? For 100% street driving, and no track work, would the average driver notice a considerable difference in street driving? I know that there is some degree of mid-range improvement based on the larger engine, but what are the other differences?
I realize that there are some technical differences between 997.1 GT3 vs. 997.1 GT3 RS, but frankly seems largely cosmetic. I get the difference there - a little wider track, wing/aerodynamic differences, brighter colors/stickers, etc. But seems pretty much about the appearance.
My question is whether the jump to 997.2 GT3 is as night/day as some of the posts seem to imply for street driving.
Thanks!
For $30k more the 997.2 has slightly larger brakes, a little more horse power and no sunroof. The shocks are valved a little different which has a little more comfort on the street. May also have satelite radio option which is nice. Centerlock wheels are lame however.
Both 997.1 and 997.2 share the same chassis/tub and are not night and day.
The 997.1RS has light weight flywheel and no sunroof. Wide body and wing are mere cosmetic for those who only use them on the street.
The 997.1 for 70k is a good 911. The 997.1RS for $85k is good 911 to keep.
997.2 are great 911 examples but are currently $100k+
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I have owned the extremes on both ends from .1 straight GT3 to the 4.0 RS which still sits in my garage. Your question centers on street use. I actually believe the cars all look very similar, and arguably the .1 RS looks the best in my opinion....particularly from the rear. IMO the .2 cars actually ride a little better for everyday use. I also find the nose lift an absolute essential in everyday practicality. In general, and despite what you may hear on this forum, I do not suggest any GT3 model for everyday use.
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serge and polesitter are right.
pasm is better in 7.2, i dont know why, but they dont feel same.
but it's not a deal breaker.
for street use, pick the look you like, fair price then that's that.
pasm is better in 7.2, i dont know why, but they dont feel same.
but it's not a deal breaker.
for street use, pick the look you like, fair price then that's that.
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I have owned the extremes on both ends from .1 straight GT3 to the 4.0 RS which still sits in my garage. Your question centers on street use. I actually believe the cars all look very similar, and arguably the .1 RS looks the best in my opinion....particularly from the rear. IMO the .2 cars actually ride a little better for everyday use. I also find the nose lift an absolute essential in everyday practicality. In general, and despite what you may hear on this forum, I do not suggest any GT3 model for everyday use.
This definitely would not be an every day car