Petition- - 991 gt3 / RS- I want a manual!
#31
You make good points all across the board, but you're wrong about one thing. All the business about fun/involvement/etc. aside, put the same proficient driver in a MT car and a PDK car, and he/she will be faster in the PDK car. If in doubt, check out this thread including video which appeared in this forum a week or so ago....
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...ighlight=DeMan
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...ighlight=DeMan
Please don't get me wrong, I agree 100%. PDK is faster and more efficient. And faster is certainly more fun sometimes. It's just that when I get the manual thing right on occasion, and string a few laps together, I get this feeling that
it's me, it's really me. Fewer mistakes = faster times, no doubt. I am not adverse to technology. I just want to get this manual thing right more often than not. I think it will make me even faster when i eventually get my next generation GT3. I'm content to wait awhile as I am still in awe of my "new" GT3 RS.
#32
Add to this, no lack-of-feel electric steering or linkage-less shifter. Don't really see much of a point in having a clutch pedal, if the shifter isn't also tied directly to the transmission.
Last edited by 10 GT3; 02-21-2013 at 12:06 AM.
#34
Mike,
Please don't get me wrong, I agree 100%. PDK is faster and more efficient. And faster is certainly more fun sometimes. It's just that when I get the manual thing right on occasion, and string a few laps together, I get this feeling that
it's me, it's really me. Fewer mistakes = faster times, no doubt. I am not adverse to technology. I just want to get this manual thing right more often than not. I think it will make me even faster when i eventually get my next generation GT3. I'm content to wait awhile as I am still in awe of my "new" GT3 RS.
Please don't get me wrong, I agree 100%. PDK is faster and more efficient. And faster is certainly more fun sometimes. It's just that when I get the manual thing right on occasion, and string a few laps together, I get this feeling that
it's me, it's really me. Fewer mistakes = faster times, no doubt. I am not adverse to technology. I just want to get this manual thing right more often than not. I think it will make me even faster when i eventually get my next generation GT3. I'm content to wait awhile as I am still in awe of my "new" GT3 RS.
#43
I hope for your sake that's the case, but my bet is that the dealer is telling you what he thinks you want to hear. We don't even know for sure the complete spec of the GT3 yet; someone saying they know what the RS will be like is blowing smoke. Another thing; a PDK 991 GT3 is likely to give a MT 991 RS a real run for it's money. I don't think Porsche would offer a manual only RS and risk a small (if any) performance differential between the two models unless there's a big power difference, which hasn't been the case before. Great idea to put down a deposit, but too many uncertainties to have a real idea about what the car will be like. Just my $.02.
Last edited by Mike in CA; 02-21-2013 at 03:42 AM.
#44
Was at the dealership today and drove a 991S with PDK and a Cayman R, again with PDK back to back and yes, the lack of steering feel in 991 was more concerning than the PDK. Not to derail the thread, but really hope 991 GT3 has better steering feel.
#45
You make good points all across the board, but you're wrong about one thing. All the business about fun/involvement/etc. aside, put the same proficient driver in a MT car and a PDK car, and he/she will be faster in the PDK car. If in doubt, check out this thread including video which appeared in this forum a week or so ago....
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...ighlight=DeMan
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...ighlight=DeMan
And thats a long track to be 2:30 for those cars. Your average size track will see that gap close significantly.
Just pointing out the obvious. Yeah the pdk may still be faster, but those are not equally prepared cars. I would bet less than a half second for equally prepared cars with the manual lighter as it should be.