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Old 01-30-2013, 04:14 AM
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Hey there guys.

A little bit about myself. Im 31, single and am looking to get back into a porsche. namely a .2 GT3 2010.

previous cars were a BMW E46 M3, nissan 350Z, Porsche cayman S PDK, and currently a Audi R8 V8.

i've been on the lookout for a .2 GT3 over the last couple of months, and thought i had finally found the one. Until the owner sent over the vin number and I checked it with my local dealer.

Everything turned out to be perfect except for the fact that it had an engine change due to the previous owner missing a shift and blowing up the engine. Everything was replaced at porsche and it is under warranty.

My question is, if you had found the perfect car for you but you found out that the engine had been replaced would you buy it or wait it out?

car only had 15k Km on it and the engine was replaced at around 5k.

new tires/pccb's still in great condition, been tracked twice and very gently.

Porsche GT3 with the follolwing options
A1 Exterior Colour White
79 Interior Colour Black leather interior - Clubsport
603 Exterior Dynamic cornering lights
450 Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB)
430 Wheels 19-inch GT3 wheel with center lock
XD9 Wheels painted in exterior colour
003 Interior Club sports package
XSX Seat belts in Guards Red Exclusive
CLE Alcantara interior Trim strip switch panel Alcantara


Thanks for you advise in advance

Arth
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the only downside of a replacement engine is apprehensive future buyers who think there is something wrong with the car because it doesn't have its original engine. Or gearbox.
Old 01-30-2013, 08:28 AM
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Big questions to me would be who did the replacement, why, is it still fully covered under Warntee direct from Porsche.

If the answer to those are the Dealer did it, yes I would move ahead provided price is correct.
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Originally Posted by Vonschmidt
Big questions to me would be who did the replacement, why, is it still fully covered under Warntee direct from Porsche.

If the answer to those are the Dealer did it, yes I would move ahead provided price is correct.
Which dealer did it would also be good to know. Not all dealers/techs have the same experience/knowledge.

Either way, sounds like a bargaining chip in your dealmaking. Especially since it will live on the car's record forever and there's at least a perception of diminished value for future sales that you'll have to eat.
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porsche dealer did the replacement so thats why its still covered under warranty.

so you think i should ask for a better price since the engine has been replaced?
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Agree with what others have said here. Nothing fundamentally wrong with an engine replacement done by qualified Porsche dealer but you should get a discount because you'll be asked for one when it's time to sell.
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Its the only porsche dealer here in Dubai.

very capable and I trust there work completely. good friends with the service manager as well.

They had previously changed out my PDK gearbox on my CaymanS (decided one day to stop working) and it was perfect.
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If it were me, I would negotiate for a lower price due to future resale, but wouldn't be apprehensive about it. Not a reason to let the perfect car with all the options you want get away IMO. Just knock ~3-5k off the price and get it.
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the next owner will ask you the same question = discount.

how the hell does a misshift blow an engine with a rev limiter??
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
the next owner will ask you the same question = discount.

how the hell does a misshift blow an engine with a rev limiter??
Rev limiter can't protect against a mechanical overrev. Let's say you near the rev limit in 4th, and try to get 5th getting 3rd instead...once you let the clutch out the motor immediately goes way above the limit even as the electronics shut off fuel and spark. BTDT...just not in a Porsche.

The more odd thing is that the clutch did not blow first. My understanding is that the GT3 is designed to have the clutch be the weak link so as to protect the engine. One of the GT3 drivers at One Lap in 2010 got exactly that result when he pulled the money shift at Daytona that year.
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
the next owner will ask you the same question = discount.

how the hell does a misshift blow an engine with a rev limiter??
I bet he didn't miss an upshift...how could a rev limiter stop a missed downshift from over revving the motor?? Please explain...
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im not sure "tracked twice very gently" and blown engine go together
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You now have a lower mileage engine...what's NOT good about that? I dont think a discount is warranted - that's a selling point!
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Originally Posted by StatmanDesigns
I bet he didn't miss an upshift...how could a rev limiter stop a missed downshift from over revving the motor?? Please explain...
I've always wondered why no one has invented some sort of mechanical clutch breakaway when the ECU detects a mechanical overrev.
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to Answer the O.P, yes i would buy a GT3 with warranty replacement that also still has warranty.
My last two RS porsches had warranty replacments! I bought them for great prices.


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