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Old 09-19-2012, 06:10 PM
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If you dont want the XR2 I will give you $500 for them.

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Old 09-19-2012, 06:56 PM
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:56 AM
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Deputy got me fair and square. First weekend in the car, probably not the greatest idea to brake in a set of unshaven RA1's, not very confidence inspiring. At one point during the second video I tried to set the suspension to soft (that's what I ran at Sebring on my RS.1) and that really slowed me down. Car was progressively getting better while the tires wore down but never reached a consistent point where I could actually learn the limits of the new car. But the Bumble Bee on fresh R6's is not an excuse, it never stopped me before. The suspension/car is much softer/smoother to drive, I just have to trust the car to hold, it will come in the next few weekends.
Power wise I don't think I have anything on the bumble bee, even on turns where I had a better exit I could never really gain anything.
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Get it together already, .2 GOT to take down .1's...
Old 09-20-2012, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Erik
Power wise I don't think I have anything on the bumble bee, even on turns where I had a better exit I could never really gain anything.
Erik, something is not right. Let's put the Lemon on a dyno, your car should be around the 420whp average on a dynojet.

My 295Hp Moving Chicane S tops 134mph prior to T17 (June weather with engine oil running at 270+ degrees), and the BumbleeBee AeroBeetle tops just 4mph over my speed with 415Hp, and the gap would be closer if I could exit T16 at a higher speed like the Aero Beetles do.

Your RS has 450Hp and it should be running around 145mph at the same point.
Old 09-20-2012, 12:22 PM
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The lemon made 418-420 when Eddie Dyno-ed it. 299lb tq..
I will look at the sheet this weekend,but I have posted it before.
We should Dyno trakcar 2.1 as well with M&M exhaust and without then dyno Trakcar 3(the real one, not the poser Fiat) with and without M&M as well.. We just need a mechanic and a Dyno for the afternoon..
Old 09-20-2012, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Get it together already, .2 GOT to take down .1's...
maybe the video is a set-up....?
Old 09-20-2012, 12:30 PM
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Sandbagging is he?
Old 09-20-2012, 12:32 PM
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Trakcar 1.0 was a 997.1 GT3.
Trakcar 2.0 is a 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8, massive improvements over the much slower Trakcar 1.0
Trakcar 2.1 is another 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8 with a little extra speed, minor improvement.

If you get a 4.0RS that would be Trakcar 2.5, due to the minimal performance improvements over a 2.1. If you get a GT2 RS, that would be Trakcar 3.5, because a GT2RS would surely spank the Fiat. If you're not capable to beat the Fiat with a GT2RS (shame on you), I'll trade you versions, Fiat gets Trakcar 3.5 and GT2RS gets Trakcar 3.0.

To call a Trakcar v3.0, it needs to perform as fast as the poseur Fiat.

MP4-12C with my tuning would be Trakcar 4.0, and with near 600whp and such lightweight and stiff body, better Aero than all factory Aero Beetles, there is simply no Porsche street car that can keep up with it at a racetrack.
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We will see if it is 2.5 or 3.5

Mc Laten mc4dashrs12 or whatever, is just like a POS GTR, only a little lighter with a retarded rear wing and triple the price for even less track worthiness. Just get the GTTwice 3.5 already and give up on the Fiat...
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It's not AWD. So it's no GT-R.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
We will see if it is 2.5 or 3.5

Mc Laten mc4dashrs12 or whatever, is just like a POS GTR, only a little lighter with a retarded rear wing and triple the price for even less track worthiness. Just get the GTTwice 3.5 already and give up on the Fiat...
You're so brainwashed by Winterkorn and his followers.

I doubt a stock GT Twice RS driven by famous Trakcar can beat my Fiat, too much weight in the VW, and not that much more power. You need to put an engine tune (bye bye warranty), ECU+headers+intercoolers+freeflow muffler.

MP4-12C is the real deal, McLaren is working hard and listening to the customers, they are releasing upgrades and more options every month, in less than 2 years the 12C-GT3 version will hit the market. A brand new 12C with no options is on the same price level as the obsolete GT3 RS 4.0, advantage McLaren by a mile.

I almost traded the Fiat on the MP4-12C, but I will wait until the 12C-GT3 is out and all the bugs have disappeared.

Read Tanner Foust opinion on the 12C compared to the GT2RS (video and all).
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Erik, something is not right. Let's put the Lemon on a dyno, your car should be around the 420whp average on a dynojet.

My 295Hp Moving Chicane S tops 134mph prior to T17 (June weather with engine oil running at 270+ degrees), and the BumbleeBee AeroBeetle tops just 4mph over my speed with 415Hp, and the gap would be closer if I could exit T16 at a higher speed like the Aero Beetles do.

Your RS has 450Hp and it should be running around 145mph at the same point.
Rad,

Isin't the Gen 1 cars better geared for Sebring than Gen 2 cars? I think Paul's RS and Gavin's car are doing over 144MPH at the end of 16, and both car have regear transmissions.
Old 09-20-2012, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by senna
Rad,

Isin't the Gen 1 cars better geared for Sebring than Gen 2 cars? I think Paul's RS and Gavin's car are doing over 144MPH at the end of 16, and both car have regear transmissions.
No difference in gearing. They have modified transmissions.


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