PCCB & Cast iron Brakes / pads technical information
02-22-2017, 11:55 AM
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02-27-2017, 09:46 AM
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Totally agree.
DO NOT USE TRW WITH PCCB!
They work on the street but not on the track.
I had a code brown moment the first time I used them on the track. Literally no bite after one lap. I thought I was going to crash!
I chewed out my shop for installing them (supplier called them OEM). Fortunately, I had an old set of Pagid P40 at the track with me. But it pretty much ruined a weekend at the track since I didn't have enough pad on hand for the event. And scared the pants off of me.
DO NOT USE TRW WITH PCCB!
They work on the street but not on the track.
I had a code brown moment the first time I used them on the track. Literally no bite after one lap. I thought I was going to crash!
I chewed out my shop for installing them (supplier called them OEM). Fortunately, I had an old set of Pagid P40 at the track with me. But it pretty much ruined a weekend at the track since I didn't have enough pad on hand for the event. And scared the pants off of me.
04-19-2017, 03:30 PM
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Hi Craig, I'm looking for a pad on a heavier 997.2 Turbo S PCCB that is a street/track car so considering the Pagid - either the RS29's or RSC series (1,2 or 3). I don't want squeak because of the street duty. Which would you recommend? Thanks.
04-19-2017, 04:01 PM
#36
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Thx for the quick reply Craig. My PCCB's don't squeak with stock pads and I would like to keep it that way as the car is mostly street and maybe will see the track 2 times per year. That said if the RSC-1's don't squeak I would prefer those to get a bit more performance than the stock pads. So...when you say they may make more noise, is it hit or miss on whether they squeak? Or do they definitely squeak? Thanks so much.
05-23-2017, 04:12 PM
#39
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Pagid RSC-1's maybe. I just put them on yesterday. Got them from Craig. No squeak and stopping power is fantastic. I might have over done it on the bed-in as I got them smoking 
05-23-2017, 05:00 PM
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08-03-2017, 05:06 PM
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997.2 gt3 carbon ceramic clicking noise
Strange clicking noise during aggressive turn, Dealer states the springs on carbon ceramic rotors are making the noise, the rotors are two piece free floating pressed together with the springs. Porsche states it's not a safety issue so not under any type of warranty. Anyone else have this issue? Any fix for it?
02-11-2021, 08:53 PM
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Trying to determine the front rotor size for a 2011 Porsche 911 997.2 Turbo S for pccb rotor replacement.
Do you know if it's 380x34mm like 997.2 GT2/GT3 or 350x34mm.
https://racingbrake.com/997-05-12/
Thank you.
01-28-2023, 03:07 PM
#43
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Pccb rotor replacement, you can have them also refurbished.
So the process we are working on is pyrolysis using polymers, we coat the chopped fibers and fill up the air pockets that cause discs to be porous. Polymer is changed during the pyrolysis in ceramic. So the core of the discs is more resilient. What we do as well is to protect the outside of the disc (not the outside and inner edge) with oxy coating to prevent oxygen from entering the disc core. This process is very complicated and takes up to 30 days. Also was developed by an expert who knows very well how the production of CCB and CCM OEM is done and figured out how to improve them. So it not only re-coating but we work with the core of the disc.
So for those who are using OEMs, the upgrade on new discs or refurbishment on used ones is very recommendable, because it helps to extend the life span of OEM. Redisc has bought the whole technology from an inventor who now produces continuous strand carbon-ceramic discs for motorsport and now also makes discs for the car industry. Based on the knowledge the original company has, the is no doubt that the refurbishment process on CCB and CCM is on top of the quality. And we are working with them very closely to produce the best outcome for our service.
@sixtyfiver Regarding the noise, there are different types of solution. Carbon ceramic brakes are made for track and on the street you need to try couple of times with hard braking.
PLease let me know if you have any questions.
So the process we are working on is pyrolysis using polymers, we coat the chopped fibers and fill up the air pockets that cause discs to be porous. Polymer is changed during the pyrolysis in ceramic. So the core of the discs is more resilient. What we do as well is to protect the outside of the disc (not the outside and inner edge) with oxy coating to prevent oxygen from entering the disc core. This process is very complicated and takes up to 30 days. Also was developed by an expert who knows very well how the production of CCB and CCM OEM is done and figured out how to improve them. So it not only re-coating but we work with the core of the disc.
So for those who are using OEMs, the upgrade on new discs or refurbishment on used ones is very recommendable, because it helps to extend the life span of OEM. Redisc has bought the whole technology from an inventor who now produces continuous strand carbon-ceramic discs for motorsport and now also makes discs for the car industry. Based on the knowledge the original company has, the is no doubt that the refurbishment process on CCB and CCM is on top of the quality. And we are working with them very closely to produce the best outcome for our service.
@sixtyfiver Regarding the noise, there are different types of solution. Carbon ceramic brakes are made for track and on the street you need to try couple of times with hard braking.
PLease let me know if you have any questions.
01-29-2023, 06:39 AM
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Pccb rotor replacement, you can have them also refurbished.
So the process we are working on is pyrolysis using polymers, we coat the chopped fibers and fill up the air pockets that cause discs to be porous. Polymer is changed during the pyrolysis in ceramic. So the core of the discs is more resilient. What we do as well is to protect the outside of the disc (not the outside and inner edge) with oxy coating to prevent oxygen from entering the disc core. This process is very complicated and takes up to 30 days. Also was developed by an expert who knows very well how the production of CCB and CCM OEM is done and figured out how to improve them. So it not only re-coating but we work with the core of the disc.
So for those who are using OEMs, the upgrade on new discs or refurbishment on used ones is very recommendable, because it helps to extend the life span of OEM. Redisc has bought the whole technology from an inventor who now produces continuous strand carbon-ceramic discs for motorsport and now also makes discs for the car industry. Based on the knowledge the original company has, the is no doubt that the refurbishment process on CCB and CCM is on top of the quality. And we are working with them very closely to produce the best outcome for our service.
@sixtyfiver Regarding the noise, there are different types of solution. Carbon ceramic brakes are made for track and on the street you need to try couple of times with hard braking.
PLease let me know if you have any questions.
So the process we are working on is pyrolysis using polymers, we coat the chopped fibers and fill up the air pockets that cause discs to be porous. Polymer is changed during the pyrolysis in ceramic. So the core of the discs is more resilient. What we do as well is to protect the outside of the disc (not the outside and inner edge) with oxy coating to prevent oxygen from entering the disc core. This process is very complicated and takes up to 30 days. Also was developed by an expert who knows very well how the production of CCB and CCM OEM is done and figured out how to improve them. So it not only re-coating but we work with the core of the disc.
So for those who are using OEMs, the upgrade on new discs or refurbishment on used ones is very recommendable, because it helps to extend the life span of OEM. Redisc has bought the whole technology from an inventor who now produces continuous strand carbon-ceramic discs for motorsport and now also makes discs for the car industry. Based on the knowledge the original company has, the is no doubt that the refurbishment process on CCB and CCM is on top of the quality. And we are working with them very closely to produce the best outcome for our service.
@sixtyfiver Regarding the noise, there are different types of solution. Carbon ceramic brakes are made for track and on the street you need to try couple of times with hard braking.
PLease let me know if you have any questions.
I will PM you directly. Thank you!
Last edited by fayraree; 01-29-2023 at 08:46 AM.
