Originally Posted by Serge944

A Camaro gave a LOT of Porsche GT3s a LOT of grief at Daytona 24. So it's fast on the road, race track, under endurance race conditions - what more do you expect from the poor thing??

Originally Posted by Snowboarder54

It's not the same car you and I could buy, purpose built with tube frame just like the mazda!

Originally Posted by Snowboarder54

No the Comaro!

Originally Posted by Serge944

A Camaro gave a LOT of Porsche GT3s a LOT of grief at Daytona 24. So it's fast on the road, race track, under endurance race conditions - what more do you expect from the poor thing??

Originally Posted by PJS996GT3

Is it? Are we talking about a mustang 302R?

from Fordracing.com:

Available in White only
Sealed high output 5.0L engine race engine with upgraded cooling system
Close ratio 6-speed transmission with integral shifter
Seam-welded body
Roll cage
Race suspension/KONI dampers and ABS brake tuning
Race wheels/tires
Race performance exhaust
High speed balance 1-piece driveshaft
Racing fuel cell
Race data acquisition
Race seats, safety harness

Seam welded and a cage...

edit:
link http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=11545

basically a ford cup car for $135K

Originally Posted by PJS996GT3

as I understand it, there is an optional "performance driving option" that includes all types of coolers... these coolers are standard on the ZL1 and Chevy is using the fact they are standard as a sales tactic against the more powerful ford. I think the add on coolers are part of a $4000 option for the 500... dont quote me though...

If you can get one at sticker, I figure the 500 will be $70K with the right options and of course Ford knows this is the king mustang so it will have to crush the boss 302 and that is saying something in this price range.

the base 5.0 stang is as fast as an m3 with pobst driving at a nor cal track (cannot remember which one)
The 302 is faster
the 302 laguna seca is faster still
then the 500 will have to eclipse the 302 LS

I believe ford will sell out of the gt 500 just by nature of the car and what the payment will be... if it posts a ring time in the low 7:30s or better then it literally fly off the shelves and possibly earn Ford some take away customers.

This kind of power and handling war is good for the entire performance car industry... even engineers in germany have to consider their performance offereings in the USA when a guy can throw down in a pony car for usually far less money.

a ZL1 "laguna seca" style edition would be nice to see... get it down to 3-3200 lbs, with that susp and that power... weight is holding it back from a 7:30s ring time IMHO

Originally Posted by tcsracing1

Very good observation as they had me take note during the race however truth is they are one off tube frame cars just like the grand-am mazda. They both do not share tub or suspension points of the street car.

the porsche maintains the same tub and suspension location points as the street car.

the ferrari, mustang and viper also share the same body as the street car.