Road & Track Tests 4.0
08-29-2011 | 05:53 PM
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Larry, what part of their data is a joke ? Not talking about the crap, repeat-of-manufactuer-talking points, but their actual data ? I've always found it to be complete (ie temp, humidity, elevation, weight, etc.). As far as the basic "performance" data ( acceleration, braking, skidpad), what else is there to use as a basis ? Not talking about lap times from good magazines (EVO, GT Porsche). I have no affiliation or bias towards R&T/C&D (and dont subscribe to either....Excellence for me !) but always use their data as a "baseline" for comparison.
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i.e the data is not funny ... the magazine IS ... pathetically so...
compare to something like EVO eCotY...
08-29-2011 | 05:55 PM
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Porsche has done a great job. The 996 GT3 ran 12.0 flat on the 1/4 mile, and after the addition of 120Hp it now runs 11.8 secs.
Don't be surprise if this car shows as just a little better than the 3.8 RS, because that's what it is. It is the best of them all, but the 3.8 RS is already so good, that it is difficult to drastically improve from it.
991 GT3 should bring better news.
Don't be surprise if this car shows as just a little better than the 3.8 RS, because that's what it is. It is the best of them all, but the 3.8 RS is already so good, that it is difficult to drastically improve from it.
991 GT3 should bring better news.
08-30-2011 | 04:27 PM
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Btw, did anyone else notice something strange with their 200 mph run on the autobahn...as in it is impossible for a production RS 4.0 to run 200 mph? The gearing limits it to 193 at the rev limiter in 6th. This means either the speedo was way off or it had non standard gearing.
08-30-2011 | 05:16 PM
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Btw, did anyone else notice something strange with their 200 mph run on the autobahn...as in it is impossible for a production RS 4.0 to run 200 mph? The gearing limits it to 193 at the rev limiter in 6th. This means either the speedo was way off or it had non standard gearing.
200mph indicated is actually in the low 190s.
08-30-2011 | 05:44 PM
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08-30-2011 | 07:22 PM
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- 100+ lbs lighter
- Lots of weight removed on the rear axle
- Longer wheelbase
- More power
- Closer tranny ratios matching the nature of a high rev engine (this is the main improvement in the F458 Italia, not the DCT tranny, but the gear ratios)
- Lots of weight removed on the rear axle
- Longer wheelbase
- More power
- Closer tranny ratios matching the nature of a high rev engine (this is the main improvement in the F458 Italia, not the DCT tranny, but the gear ratios)
The lower weight remains to be seen, more power remains to be seen and moving weight forward remains to be seen and that not absolutely always a good thing, but we will see...
08-30-2011 | 07:31 PM
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All true, but bigger car and thus less exhilirating and less communicative ala 458 pig!
I want something that I can toss around therefore 997 is my heaven.
08-30-2011 | 07:32 PM
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I thought we had already discussed the apparent weight loss & balance that is not present in the carerras about to be launched ... wheelbase is of course not debatable, the engine (in my mind at least) is ... as for the tranny, I thought the 7sp manual was intended to meet euro economy measures and I am not smart enough to map that requirement onto shorter ratios ...
I guess I am just a nay sayer (sorry, but at least self confessed) I dont see any 991/9A1 based platform as a real GT3 ... I promise to eat a set of 4.0L dive planes if I am proved wrong, and perhaps even forsake my 7.2 for one of the accursed CayPanaManEraCanaEnnes GT3's
08-30-2011 | 07:35 PM
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08-31-2011 | 08:16 AM
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Worst car I owned for this was a Gallardo, it showed 190mph on the speedo, when GPS was only 173mph, so nearly 10% error.
