Centerlocks - I'm out! ....Hello 5-lug conversion!
#151
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I read you post. Ever after your explanation it still doesn't make sense.
You can sell your stock center locks and use those towards to the purchase of an aftermarket set of street wheels. My guess is that they are probably worth 3k. And you can sell your CL assemblies to someone in the cars and coffee crowd looking for a a little more bling. My guess is probably around $1500. You'd have no use for them anymore anyway, unless you plan on reversing the whole process at some point down the road. Which would be expensive and pointless.
Quality track wheels don't cost 5k. And track tires don't cost 2k. Your $15K OTD is way way way off.
I'm certainly not encouraging you to do it or not do it. Your choice. But your math is misleading.
You can sell your stock center locks and use those towards to the purchase of an aftermarket set of street wheels. My guess is that they are probably worth 3k. And you can sell your CL assemblies to someone in the cars and coffee crowd looking for a a little more bling. My guess is probably around $1500. You'd have no use for them anymore anyway, unless you plan on reversing the whole process at some point down the road. Which would be expensive and pointless.
Quality track wheels don't cost 5k. And track tires don't cost 2k. Your $15K OTD is way way way off.
I'm certainly not encouraging you to do it or not do it. Your choice. But your math is misleading.
#152
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In a nutshell:
So far I've found it about impossible to sell my center lock parts/rotors and wheels.
$1600 for 5 lug hubs and bearings and bolts
$4000 give or take for new 5 lug street wheels
$750 for new stock 5 lug Porsche rotors rotors
$1500 at least for labor..quoted 4 hrs per wheel
$300 new alignment
$8150 TOTAL...
Right now on eBay there are 4 sets of Turbo/GTS center locks for sale with no bids for weeks at $1500. There is a new never used center lock kit on eBay too taken off a car that was stripped for the Grand Am Conti series....$1600 and no bids.
If I could find someone willing to buy my center lock parts and wheels for at least $3500 I'd do it. I'd even swap out my CL stuff with a 2009-2012 car 5 bolt stuff.
So far I've found it about impossible to sell my center lock parts/rotors and wheels.
$1600 for 5 lug hubs and bearings and bolts
$4000 give or take for new 5 lug street wheels
$750 for new stock 5 lug Porsche rotors rotors
$1500 at least for labor..quoted 4 hrs per wheel
$300 new alignment
$8150 TOTAL...
Right now on eBay there are 4 sets of Turbo/GTS center locks for sale with no bids for weeks at $1500. There is a new never used center lock kit on eBay too taken off a car that was stripped for the Grand Am Conti series....$1600 and no bids.
If I could find someone willing to buy my center lock parts and wheels for at least $3500 I'd do it. I'd even swap out my CL stuff with a 2009-2012 car 5 bolt stuff.
#154
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Hello, i lost my CL wheel on track...
Hello everybody,
My name is Franck, and i'm new on the forum. I'm riding on track ni France and Europe whith my 997 gt3 MKII, and this week end, the right rear CL has broken on the catalunya track.So lucky, i heard a strange noise before, so i was riding at 40 mph when it happened, and the wheel has gone under the car, so there is not too much damages... BUT...
Of course, Porsche doesn't want to know nothing, cause i was riding with cargraphic CL wheelset...
They say that the problem is not the wheel, but thé CL system... It's so complicated to use, and not safe in my opinion.
so i Will make a conversion in 5 lubs, i think is thé only one solution...
Could you help me please to make this, and does someone who has done this could tell me if It's the good solution?
P.S : i'm so sorry for my english, but i Will learn...
My name is Franck, and i'm new on the forum. I'm riding on track ni France and Europe whith my 997 gt3 MKII, and this week end, the right rear CL has broken on the catalunya track.So lucky, i heard a strange noise before, so i was riding at 40 mph when it happened, and the wheel has gone under the car, so there is not too much damages... BUT...
Of course, Porsche doesn't want to know nothing, cause i was riding with cargraphic CL wheelset...
They say that the problem is not the wheel, but thé CL system... It's so complicated to use, and not safe in my opinion.
so i Will make a conversion in 5 lubs, i think is thé only one solution...
Could you help me please to make this, and does someone who has done this could tell me if It's the good solution?
P.S : i'm so sorry for my english, but i Will learn...
#157
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^ pm me or DJN with regard to 5 lugs.
#158
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Hello everybody,
My name is Franck, and i'm new on the forum. I'm riding on track ni France and Europe whith my 997 gt3 MKII, and this week end, the right rear CL has broken on the catalunya track.So lucky, i heard a strange noise before, so i was riding at 40 mph when it happened, and the wheel has gone under the car, so there is not too much damages... BUT...
Of course, Porsche doesn't want to know nothing, cause i was riding with cargraphic CL wheelset...
They say that the problem is not the wheel, but thé CL system... It's so complicated to use, and not safe in my opinion.
so i Will make a conversion in 5 lubs, i think is thé only one solution...
Could you help me please to make this, and does someone who has done this could tell me if It's the good solution?
P.S : i'm so sorry for my english, but i Will learn...
My name is Franck, and i'm new on the forum. I'm riding on track ni France and Europe whith my 997 gt3 MKII, and this week end, the right rear CL has broken on the catalunya track.So lucky, i heard a strange noise before, so i was riding at 40 mph when it happened, and the wheel has gone under the car, so there is not too much damages... BUT...
Of course, Porsche doesn't want to know nothing, cause i was riding with cargraphic CL wheelset...
They say that the problem is not the wheel, but thé CL system... It's so complicated to use, and not safe in my opinion.
so i Will make a conversion in 5 lubs, i think is thé only one solution...
Could you help me please to make this, and does someone who has done this could tell me if It's the good solution?
P.S : i'm so sorry for my english, but i Will learn...
Good luck with the upgrade, it is straightforward.
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Hello everybody,
My name is Franck, and i'm new on the forum. I'm riding on track ni France and Europe whith my 997 gt3 MKII, and this week end, the right rear CL has broken on the catalunya track.So lucky, i heard a strange noise before, so i was riding at 40 mph when it happened, and the wheel has gone under the car, so there is not too much damages... BUT...
My name is Franck, and i'm new on the forum. I'm riding on track ni France and Europe whith my 997 gt3 MKII, and this week end, the right rear CL has broken on the catalunya track.So lucky, i heard a strange noise before, so i was riding at 40 mph when it happened, and the wheel has gone under the car, so there is not too much damages... BUT...
Did you actually record on video the moment when it happened ? And picture of the broken part ?
#160
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Hello,
I'm so sorry but the video of the crash i don't have, because the recorder didn't have battery. But i have incredible pictures of the hub!
I'm far from office today, but tomorow Will send them.
Or i can send by email on answer at franck@unairdici.fr
Regards
I'm so sorry but the video of the crash i don't have, because the recorder didn't have battery. But i have incredible pictures of the hub!
I'm far from office today, but tomorow Will send them.
Or i can send by email on answer at franck@unairdici.fr
Regards
#163
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Keen to hear your take Savy once you receive them!
Franck84, welcome to the forum and so sorry to hear about your troubles! If you decide to do the 5 lug conversion, there are many guys here who will be able to help you with part numbers and any questions you may have! Glad to hear your damage was not significant beyond the hub damage.
Regards
Franck84, welcome to the forum and so sorry to hear about your troubles! If you decide to do the 5 lug conversion, there are many guys here who will be able to help you with part numbers and any questions you may have! Glad to hear your damage was not significant beyond the hub damage.
Regards
#164
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Franck84, welcome to the forum and so sorry to hear about your troubles! If you decide to do the 5 lug conversion, there are many guys here who will be able to help you with part numbers and any questions you may have! Glad to hear your damage was not significant beyond the hub damage.
Regards
Franck84, welcome to the forum and so sorry to hear about your troubles! If you decide to do the 5 lug conversion, there are many guys here who will be able to help you with part numbers and any questions you may have! Glad to hear your damage was not significant beyond the hub damage.
Regards
OE rotors and the drive pins and hub show none of the tell-tale signs of having a loose CL nut. It was an instantaneous break. He did have aftermarket wheels, so someone had the CL nuts off and then reinstalled them. In my opinion, the most likely scenerio is that whoever installed the wheels overtorqued the CL nuts.
Therefore to be safe the car owner must now replace the other three hubs.
Car owner would be well served to have a 3rd party mechanic check the break-away torque of the remaining three CL nuts for a more definite diagnoses. If they are overtorqued, then the cause is inarguable.
Ah, I just got permission to post photos-
#165
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Pete thanks for effort.
Franck84, welcome to the forum. I hope that after the conversion you will only post pleasant experiences.
Doug, I'm going to stick the thread.
Best
John
Franck84, welcome to the forum. I hope that after the conversion you will only post pleasant experiences.
Doug, I'm going to stick the thread.
Best
John