Alignment Readings
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To do alignment you need to consider not the Cambers, Toe.. readings only, you need to consider the weight distribution on each wheel and to consider also doing some alignment for the Exhaust system as well. This is what the Regional manager told my local dealer to tell me the right way to do GT3 alignment. Funny, they don’t have the right equipment to do that!!!!!
Man, run for the hills!!
This dealer might have confused a corner balance with an alignment. You typically corner balance, then align. One's got to do with weight distro, the other, geometry of the contact patches. Either way, your dealer's waltzing in lala-land...
And... EXHAUST??? I surrender bro... your GT3 must've had the F-22 Raptor upgrade with the thrust-vectoring exhaust package...
Nutz as he is, he's got one thing right: PDI doesn't cover alignment. But that doesn't mean you're aligned. My 997.1 and 997.2 RS all came with a whackjob of alignments. Both understeered on a biblical scale. I was on a hunter machine within the first 200 miles in both cases!!
Last edited by CRex; May 23, 2011 at 08:56 AM.
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I have made an alignment at the dealer as follows:
Camber (Front:L/R): -1°29' / -1°33'
Camber (Rear:L/R): -1°31' / -1°29'
Toe (per side, F/R): 0°00' / 0°13'
Caster (Front:L/R): 8°13' / 8°03'
Now the car raised by almost 3cm front and almost 1cm rear, as they said this is the standard setup for road driving. the ground clearance from the front spoiler is 14cm far from the ground and when using lifting system is about 17cm.
the car is amazing now and much stable at high speed and the ground clearance is superb i can go most of places i was using the front lifting system now without switching it on.
the car looks to me little high compared to previous setup and when using the front lifting system the front will jump with any small rock or hole
Camber (Front:L/R): -1°29' / -1°33'
Camber (Rear:L/R): -1°31' / -1°29'
Toe (per side, F/R): 0°00' / 0°13'
Caster (Front:L/R): 8°13' / 8°03'
Now the car raised by almost 3cm front and almost 1cm rear, as they said this is the standard setup for road driving. the ground clearance from the front spoiler is 14cm far from the ground and when using lifting system is about 17cm.
the car is amazing now and much stable at high speed and the ground clearance is superb i can go most of places i was using the front lifting system now without switching it on.
the car looks to me little high compared to previous setup and when using the front lifting system the front will jump with any small rock or hole
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I have made an alignment at the dealer as follows:
Camber (Front:L/R): -1°29' / -1°33'
Camber (Rear:L/R): -1°31' / -1°29'
Toe (per side, F/R): 0°00' / 0°13'
Caster (Front:L/R): 8°13' / 8°03'
Now the car raised by almost 3cm front and almost 1cm rear, as they said this is the standard setup for road driving. the ground clearance from the front spoiler is 14cm far from the ground and when using lifting system is about 17cm.
the car is amazing now and much stable at high speed and the ground clearance is superb i can go most of places i was using the front lifting system now without switching it on.
the car looks to me little high compared to previous setup and when using the front lifting system the front will jump with any small rock or hole
Camber (Front:L/R): -1°29' / -1°33'
Camber (Rear:L/R): -1°31' / -1°29'
Toe (per side, F/R): 0°00' / 0°13'
Caster (Front:L/R): 8°13' / 8°03'
Now the car raised by almost 3cm front and almost 1cm rear, as they said this is the standard setup for road driving. the ground clearance from the front spoiler is 14cm far from the ground and when using lifting system is about 17cm.
the car is amazing now and much stable at high speed and the ground clearance is superb i can go most of places i was using the front lifting system now without switching it on.
the car looks to me little high compared to previous setup and when using the front lifting system the front will jump with any small rock or hole
In all honesty your dealer is full of $hit.
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I have made an alignment at the dealer as follows:
Camber (Front:L/R): -1°29' / -1°33'
Camber (Rear:L/R): -1°31' / -1°29'
Toe (per side, F/R): 0°00' / 0°13'
Caster (Front:L/R): 8°13' / 8°03'
Now the car raised by almost 3cm front and almost 1cm rear, as they said this is the standard setup for road driving. the ground clearance from the front spoiler is 14cm far from the ground and when using lifting system is about 17cm.
the car is amazing now and much stable at high speed and the ground clearance is superb i can go most of places i was using the front lifting system now without switching it on.
the car looks to me little high compared to previous setup and when using the front lifting system the front will jump with any small rock or hole
Camber (Front:L/R): -1°29' / -1°33'
Camber (Rear:L/R): -1°31' / -1°29'
Toe (per side, F/R): 0°00' / 0°13'
Caster (Front:L/R): 8°13' / 8°03'
Now the car raised by almost 3cm front and almost 1cm rear, as they said this is the standard setup for road driving. the ground clearance from the front spoiler is 14cm far from the ground and when using lifting system is about 17cm.
the car is amazing now and much stable at high speed and the ground clearance is superb i can go most of places i was using the front lifting system now without switching it on.
the car looks to me little high compared to previous setup and when using the front lifting system the front will jump with any small rock or hole
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also, if you measure with a ruler from ground to the outer edge of front left fender right above wheel hub - what do you get?
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I had the dealer align mine and they likely took it to stock specs - felt horrible even on the street. on-center steering was vague.
had my indy shop do it again and back to feeling awesomeness. i wouldn't take it to the dealer as all they know is to do it out of a book
had my indy shop do it again and back to feeling awesomeness. i wouldn't take it to the dealer as all they know is to do it out of a book
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I had the dealer align mine and they likely took it to stock specs - felt horrible even on the street. on-center steering was vague.
had my indy shop do it again and back to feeling awesomeness. i wouldn't take it to the dealer as all they know is to do it out of a book
had my indy shop do it again and back to feeling awesomeness. i wouldn't take it to the dealer as all they know is to do it out of a book
frankly speaking i am happey with the new highet it saves the car and it become durable as Daily driving.
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Well, how about 9 inches? 
Sorry, kidding aside, the standard ride height varies from region to region. You'd rarely get two cars with the same height at four corners. Mine for example came with barely a finger's width between the top of the tire and fender.
The important thing is that your car's corner balanced (assuming your local guys are able to do that properly). My own experience is that these cars are VERY sensitive to rake changes. As little as 5mm of tilt either way can radically change the track behavior (often for the worse in my own experience...).
Once you have the corners balanced, raise or lower the four corners by the same amount to get the desired looks. Then do an alignment...
Sorry, kidding aside, the standard ride height varies from region to region. You'd rarely get two cars with the same height at four corners. Mine for example came with barely a finger's width between the top of the tire and fender.
The important thing is that your car's corner balanced (assuming your local guys are able to do that properly). My own experience is that these cars are VERY sensitive to rake changes. As little as 5mm of tilt either way can radically change the track behavior (often for the worse in my own experience...).
Once you have the corners balanced, raise or lower the four corners by the same amount to get the desired looks. Then do an alignment...
