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Old 05-11-2011, 08:52 PM
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Default 997.2 GT3 PCCB replacement to oem steel

On my '11 GT3, I'm in the process of switching from PCCB to steel, ordered Brembo Type IIIs and Rs29 pads. The Brembos are still 2-3 weeks from arriving and the significant price had me questioning the wisdom, though reports of them are glowing. My original research into the brake issue was the the OEM steel rotors are not a direct replacement (requiring some kind of shim or other ad hoc adjustment); however, someone recently suggested to me that they were. I'd love to have this cleared up before these Brembos arrive. They are pricey but I once I see them, I'll want them I'm sure. Any help appreciated.
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require narrow anulas pad
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JLR,

I am going to do the same thing. Are the Brembos direct rotor replacement using all of the Porsche components? And are the pads you purchased good for track and some street? If so, I will order just what you did. Thanks for any info--this can be a confusing topic.
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Easy topic, with search

Brembo bolts on, you have to buy a narrow annulas pad for the brembo rotor in front, stock in back

Wrightwood / AP makes a kit as well as PFC. Both race parts....will make noise on street

Giro makes a kit, not sure for PCCB

Stop Tech makes a kit, narrow anulas pad.....much cheaper than brembo, if you track sometimes buy this kit

On old car I replaced the whole kit with Stop Tech STR......and sold PCCB
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require narrow anulas pad
Thanks. Narrower annulus pads make the replacement direct?
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Fwiw if you get non narrow annulus pads you can narrow them yourself very easily

I have the brembo set up described on my .1 pccb RS and I like it.

Str kit is compelling though mainly due to izzones write up and experience
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Oh and my brembo rotor kit shipped with pads from brembo - stock pad compound in narrow annulus format... So that is nice
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Originally Posted by PJS996GT3
Oh and my brembo rotor kit shipped with pads from brembo - stock pad compound in narrow annulus format... So that is nice
Street pad though......worthless
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I am going to do the same thing. Are the Brembos direct rotor replacement using all of the Porsche components? And are the pads you purchased good for track and some street? If so, I will order just what you did. Thanks for any info--this can be a confusing topic.
My understanding is that the Brembos are direct replacements using the yellow PCCB calipers and components. I ordered my from Vivid Racing (ask for Phil). The RS29 pads come w/ front rotors (I believe), but had to order pads for rear. The brakes themselves come directly from Brembo and take 2-3 weeks for shipping. Based on responses, I'm still unsure re OEM steel as a direct replacement. Certainly, the Brembos are nice -- and if they deliver on issue of "feel" I will be sold -- but are twice as expensive as stock steel rotors.
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You're gonna love the Type 3's. Very linear in feel. Literally bomb-proof--easily lasts 10-15 hot laps and I don't think I've experienced fade once, not even once, during my 1.5 years with them on my 997.1 RS

I started with the short annulus pads from the brembo kit in the front (yellow and custom-sized) and P50s in the rear. After the first set I moved to RS29s all around. For some reason the P50s squealed real bad when I had them but it was probably just my specific set of circumstances (bedding issues or wear pattern on the pads, etc.)
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Originally Posted by Izzone
Street pad though......worthless
Agreed

OP - the pads that come with are yellow and pagid brand but not "pagid yellows". They are FF something, the same as the yellow pads that come stock with Porsche steel brakes... If you want RS 29 pads all around, order RS 29 pads for the front
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While we're on the topic, my mechanic told me that MY2011 cup steel rotors are now a direct bolt-on for our PCCB cars. Price sounds pretty reasonable at less than $500 per corner.

But all this is just hearsay and I have yet to speak with people who run them on a Gen 2 street car with PCCB calipers...
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This is all extremely useful information. Thanks to all who are responding. I know I speak for others.
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Originally Posted by 911GT3
This is all extremely useful information. Thanks to all who are responding. I know I speak for others.
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I'm going to contact Vivid today and try to clear up the issue with the front pads that come with the Brembo Type III. The sales guy said he had called Brembo and they said it was RS29, which has a bit of credibility if only because it goes against their economic interests. Still, they may just be mistaken.

If the OEM steels are an option as a direct fit, it would be hard to pass them up, even if they are not as durable. I don't track that much. Feel is more important to me. The Brembos are roughly $5k brakes w/pads (add that to the $8k Pccb paperweights).


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