Odd malfunction in my 997.1 GT3
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Thats an interesting theory... except there are no rats here. The apartment building where I park is obsessively maintained and serviced. Never seen so much as an ant.
Plus the unit is isolated, to get to it you need to remove a shield that is bolted on.
Dealer is not very communicative so far. "Looking into it, will let you know"
Car is an 08, with less than 20,000 miles on it. Under warranty, too.
Plus the unit is isolated, to get to it you need to remove a shield that is bolted on.
Dealer is not very communicative so far. "Looking into it, will let you know"
Car is an 08, with less than 20,000 miles on it. Under warranty, too.
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Here's another crazy theory. Still burning cigarette butt being thrown out from car in front of u and went thru front intake and lodged inside. I was at a dealership and saw a fried up boxster which service adviser a cigarette butt went thru the driver side intake. Driver was a smoker. Mike
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It's a long shot but is there a chance that the main power supply switch (fitted in the time period between vehicle delivery to the dealer and vehicle handover to the customer) was still on your car?
This unit can cause issues when on the car if it is handled incorrectly while the key is in the ignition..
Also I found a TSB for early 7 GT3's that required a new DME programming and a new 10A fuse installed for the engine blower, to replace the 7.5A one.
Another possibility is that all the major electronic issues are caused by a loose battery ground strap, if the fastening nut securing the battery ground strap to the body is not tightened to the specified tightening torque of 15 Nm (11 ftlb.).
I am very curious about this one..
ps. Adam I like the mouse idea as well but cannot back it up with a tech note..
This unit can cause issues when on the car if it is handled incorrectly while the key is in the ignition..
Also I found a TSB for early 7 GT3's that required a new DME programming and a new 10A fuse installed for the engine blower, to replace the 7.5A one.
Another possibility is that all the major electronic issues are caused by a loose battery ground strap, if the fastening nut securing the battery ground strap to the body is not tightened to the specified tightening torque of 15 Nm (11 ftlb.).
I am very curious about this one..
ps. Adam I like the mouse idea as well but cannot back it up with a tech note..
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I didn't mean anything disparaging. There are rats and mice everywhere on this planet. You park at a race track and there's rats and mice. It didn't have to be caused while it was parked in your apartment building. I think it's an unlikely cause, but I'm at a loss to think of an electrical part of component that could cause all the gremlins you describe. It will be interesting to hear their diagnosis.
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It's a long shot but is there a chance that the main power supply switch (fitted in the time period between vehicle delivery to the dealer and vehicle handover to the customer) was still on your car?
This unit can cause issues when on the car if it is handled incorrectly while the key is in the ignition..
Also I found a TSB for early 7 GT3's that required a new DME programming and a new 10A fuse installed for the engine blower, to replace the 7.5A one.
Another possibility is that all the major electronic issues are caused by a loose battery ground strap, if the fastening nut securing the battery ground strap to the body is not tightened to the specified tightening torque of 15 Nm (11 ftlb.).
I am very curious about this one..
ps. Adam I like the mouse idea as well but cannot back it up with a tech note..
This unit can cause issues when on the car if it is handled incorrectly while the key is in the ignition..
Also I found a TSB for early 7 GT3's that required a new DME programming and a new 10A fuse installed for the engine blower, to replace the 7.5A one.
Another possibility is that all the major electronic issues are caused by a loose battery ground strap, if the fastening nut securing the battery ground strap to the body is not tightened to the specified tightening torque of 15 Nm (11 ftlb.).
I am very curious about this one..
ps. Adam I like the mouse idea as well but cannot back it up with a tech note..
As for the loose wiring, thats all fine but that would explain the moody electronics, but not a massive overload of the circuitry resulting in combustion of the wiring and the control unit!
Managed to get a hold of the dealer again today, latest is "don't worry about it, Porsche will cover it". Frankly the cost isn't the issue, it would be several hundred $ at most. What I am dreading is that the car will wind up sitting @ the dealer for weeks if not months while they ponder what they want to do... life without GT3 ain't good!!!
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No insurance on the premises of a race track, so this clearly happened at a supermarket parking lot.
All the fans will operate when the thermostat feels like it, regardless of key position.
I think I'll put a battery isolator switch in my car.
Anyone know the 2010 GT3 RS Clubsport part numbers for the battery switch, please? : )
All the fans will operate when the thermostat feels like it, regardless of key position.
I think I'll put a battery isolator switch in my car.
Anyone know the 2010 GT3 RS Clubsport part numbers for the battery switch, please? : )
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf...SA_KATALOG.pdf
although I would want to check this against the ROW p/n# ...
I cant find the ROW .pdf for PET ... 911SLOW???
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OP you are right about the blower's location but I had to include it as a wrong factory fuse causing a fire is always catchy.
OP you are right about the blower's location but I had to include it as a wrong factory fuse causing a fire is always catchy.
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See section 09-02 illustration 902-05
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf...SA_KATALOG.pdf
although I would want to check this against the ROW p/n# ...
I cant find the ROW .pdf for PET ... 911SLOW???
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf...SA_KATALOG.pdf
although I would want to check this against the ROW p/n# ...
I cant find the ROW .pdf for PET ... 911SLOW???
I am back;
emergency switch for 2010 GT3RS same as 07 but you also need the "green" part and depending on the battery used a bracket and some washers.
And I don't think that it is compatible with the Li-ion battery.
Mine wasn't..
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^ yup!
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So a quick update on this story. Porsche have opted NOT to replace anything under warranty since the front wiring harness was replaced in the past. So they are saying that it must be a local error. I don't blame them - but a short of that magnitude shouldn't happen!
$2,000 worth of work, all in. I guess it could have been much worse. I will likely install a battery isolator switch.. anyone know if it is possible in a 997.1 Gt3?
$2,000 worth of work, all in. I guess it could have been much worse. I will likely install a battery isolator switch.. anyone know if it is possible in a 997.1 Gt3?
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So a quick update on this story. Porsche have opted NOT to replace anything under warranty since the front wiring harness was replaced in the past. So they are saying that it must be a local error. I don't blame them - but a short of that magnitude shouldn't happen!
$2,000 worth of work, all in. I guess it could have been much worse. I will likely install a battery isolator switch.. anyone know if it is possible in a 997.1 Gt3?
$2,000 worth of work, all in. I guess it could have been much worse. I will likely install a battery isolator switch.. anyone know if it is possible in a 997.1 Gt3?
By "replaced in the past" does this mean there is a history of accident damage repair? And the work was done by someone other than a Porsche tech at a dealer? And used non-Porsche parts in any way? And Porsche identified the way in which the car is no longer assembled to factory specifications?
By "local error" the PCNA service person (regional inspector?) has identified the root cause of the fire a determined it to be unrelated to Porsche?
The $2000 ticket on the service work suggests a lot of damage. Porsche has apparently decided that your car will no longer be assured of factory warranty coverage. The car is well inside warranty ('08, 20K miles.) I'd dig in on this dispute and not allow them to set the precedent -- any future electrical gremlins could be attributed to this incident. From a headlight assembly to the nav system or the entire engine electronics, Porsche could just decline any future warranty coverage.
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So a quick update on this story. Porsche have opted NOT to replace anything under warranty since the front wiring harness was replaced in the past. So they are saying that it must be a local error. I don't blame them - but a short of that magnitude shouldn't happen!
$2,000 worth of work, all in. I guess it could have been much worse. I will likely install a battery isolator switch.. anyone know if it is possible in a 997.1 Gt3?
$2,000 worth of work, all in. I guess it could have been much worse. I will likely install a battery isolator switch.. anyone know if it is possible in a 997.1 Gt3?
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Porsche seems to have a season pass to ride on the fail boat.
By "replaced in the past" does this mean there is a history of accident damage repair? And the work was done by someone other than a Porsche tech at a dealer? And used non-Porsche parts in any way? And Porsche identified the way in which the car is no longer assembled to factory specifications?
By "local error" the PCNA service person (regional inspector?) has identified the root cause of the fire a determined it to be unrelated to Porsche?
The $2000 ticket on the service work suggests a lot of damage. Porsche has apparently decided that your car will no longer be assured of factory warranty coverage. The car is well inside warranty ('08, 20K miles.) I'd dig in on this dispute and not allow them to set the precedent -- any future electrical gremlins could be attributed to this incident. From a headlight assembly to the nav system or the entire engine electronics, Porsche could just decline any future warranty coverage.
By "replaced in the past" does this mean there is a history of accident damage repair? And the work was done by someone other than a Porsche tech at a dealer? And used non-Porsche parts in any way? And Porsche identified the way in which the car is no longer assembled to factory specifications?
By "local error" the PCNA service person (regional inspector?) has identified the root cause of the fire a determined it to be unrelated to Porsche?
The $2000 ticket on the service work suggests a lot of damage. Porsche has apparently decided that your car will no longer be assured of factory warranty coverage. The car is well inside warranty ('08, 20K miles.) I'd dig in on this dispute and not allow them to set the precedent -- any future electrical gremlins could be attributed to this incident. From a headlight assembly to the nav system or the entire engine electronics, Porsche could just decline any future warranty coverage.
All original parts. Car was re-warrantied AFTER the work, so they clearly didn't have a problem with it.
Not sure what to do. Porsche's position is that the unit is "sealed" at the factory so opening it in any way voids warranty. Sounds like BS, but I can see why they wouldn't want to set a precedent by addressing my car because if it was to happen again - and much more seriously - they could be in a world of trouble if it gets out that they accepted responsibility in the past. Better to just lay it on the "client".
At least I get my car back next week!