918 RSR video:
#31
If it races at the 24h Nurburgring, it will fall under the Experimental class, and will therefor be classified.
Consider this car as a stepping stone towards the eventual LMP project. Porsche needed a half way point between a 997 and a LMP car to test its hybrid systems.
#32
The problem that this car has with racing in ACO sanctioned series (ALMS and LMS and Le Mans) is that hybrids are not currently allowed in the GT classes.
#33
Racing the 918 against Ferrari 430/458 in GT2 will require production homologation of car. We've not yet seen production plans for the 918...it will come, but legit GT racing of this car is at least a couple years out.
Not sure the 997 is the last race iteration of the 911 platform, but front suspension design seems like it will at least need to be addressed for the 911 to remain truly competitive against GT-class cars (without serious rule-based "equalization" measures at least). 918 certainly addresses this issue with its pushrod front suspension.
Not sure the 997 is the last race iteration of the 911 platform, but front suspension design seems like it will at least need to be addressed for the 911 to remain truly competitive against GT-class cars (without serious rule-based "equalization" measures at least). 918 certainly addresses this issue with its pushrod front suspension.
#34
there is an 1 entrant for alternative energy production which the GT3 H ran in, this could take its spot as the hybrid is the exact same as that car, just added to a v8 vs flat 6. I say run the reguar v8 do enough of a production run to homologate the thing and dominate GT class, but I don't see porsche trumping the 911 variants with a mid engine anytime soon. That said, with the direction the world is headed - the hybrid stuff may be the direction things are trending - and to that... Porsche is 1 step ahead of the game.
And the 918 Racer is a very sleek looking little machine. I doubt we'll see it on track till 2012 tho.
And the 918 Racer is a very sleek looking little machine. I doubt we'll see it on track till 2012 tho.
#35
Indeed. And if I were a betting man, I'd say classes will be evolving in no time as well to accommodate these technologies.
#37
Detroit 918RSR Press Launch Video
http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/26424745/index.html
Apologies if this has been posted already, but I did not see it in this thread. Appears to be a complete video of the 918 RSR launch and announcements at the show with commentary by Mattias Mueller CEO Porsche. Some interesting highlights:
Durheimer moves to Chairman of Bentley/Bugatti and heads all motorsport activities for VW group.
Hatz(?) from VW takes his place and retains responsibility for drivetrain development at VW(!)
Clear references to LeMans - even the 22 number and 918 styling borrowed from the 917 which was Porsche's first outright win 40 years ago this year.
Panamera diesel and hybrid due this year, and serious consideration for a baby SUV under the Cayenne.
Also, "a few surprises up our sleeves when it comes to our sportscars"
Worthwhile watching. Should be very interesting to see how Porsche evolves since they are clearly integrating the business into the VW group.
Mike
Apologies if this has been posted already, but I did not see it in this thread. Appears to be a complete video of the 918 RSR launch and announcements at the show with commentary by Mattias Mueller CEO Porsche. Some interesting highlights:
Durheimer moves to Chairman of Bentley/Bugatti and heads all motorsport activities for VW group.
Hatz(?) from VW takes his place and retains responsibility for drivetrain development at VW(!)
Clear references to LeMans - even the 22 number and 918 styling borrowed from the 917 which was Porsche's first outright win 40 years ago this year.
Panamera diesel and hybrid due this year, and serious consideration for a baby SUV under the Cayenne.
Also, "a few surprises up our sleeves when it comes to our sportscars"
Worthwhile watching. Should be very interesting to see how Porsche evolves since they are clearly integrating the business into the VW group.
Mike
#38
If the current GT3 series has rear seats deleted from the factory and owners of these cars don't
care about rear seats, why not simply convert the GT3's into mid engine 911's. Maybe even with V8.
Homologation would be simple.
Base 991's might offer rear engine Flat 6 and more luxury/convenience with rear seats.
GT3 type 991's could be mid engine V8 and track oriented.
I'm just "thinking out loud" and my speculation may appear sophomoric to the cognoscenti here.........
care about rear seats, why not simply convert the GT3's into mid engine 911's. Maybe even with V8.
Homologation would be simple.
Base 991's might offer rear engine Flat 6 and more luxury/convenience with rear seats.
GT3 type 991's could be mid engine V8 and track oriented.
I'm just "thinking out loud" and my speculation may appear sophomoric to the cognoscenti here.........
#39
If the current GT3 series has rear seats deleted from the factory and owners of these cars don't
care about rear seats, why not simply convert the GT3's into mid engine 911's. Maybe even with V8.
Homologation would be simple.
Base 991's might offer rear engine Flat 6 and more luxury/convenience with rear seats.
GT3 type 991's could be mid engine V8 and track oriented.
I'm just "thinking out loud" and my speculation may appear sophomoric to the cognoscenti here.........
care about rear seats, why not simply convert the GT3's into mid engine 911's. Maybe even with V8.
Homologation would be simple.
Base 991's might offer rear engine Flat 6 and more luxury/convenience with rear seats.
GT3 type 991's could be mid engine V8 and track oriented.
I'm just "thinking out loud" and my speculation may appear sophomoric to the cognoscenti here.........
#40
The current GT3 RSR race car already has the engine moved forward (vs. the GT3 street car). With the really wide track being used now, the old reason for hanging the engine out the back doesn't exist anymore - the engine fits between the rear wheels.
Also, people are going to put V8's in 911's whether Porsche does it not
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...much-done.html
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...ersion-16.html
Also, people are going to put V8's in 911's whether Porsche does it not
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...much-done.html
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...ersion-16.html
#42
Primary propulsion is provided by a mid-mounted 4.5-liter V8 gasoline engine that kicks out 565 hp at a searing 10,300 rpm and provides drive exclusively to the rear wheels.
#44
I wonder why avowed 911 fans dismiss so quickly the all-in-the rear 911 experience. Don't they appreciate the hallmark 911 experience all-along?
Last edited by ADias; 01-11-2011 at 03:41 PM.
#45
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I agree. I don't see why there is so many connections with the 918 setup being the direct replacement for the 911 series cars. The 918's estimated price is far above the CGT's original price right?