Opinions on PCCB vs. Steel for mostly street use
08-06-2010, 12:47 PM
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Opinions on PCCB vs. Steel for mostly street use
First...sorry if this topic has been beaten to death, and second...I know the 3RS belongs mostly on the track....
What are the opinions for street use ?? I had an '08 GT3 with steel brakes and they made a LOT of noise on the street...especially at LOW speed coming to a stop. They of course made zero noise when driven at speed. I had the dealer clean and inspect/adjust...but the noise came back very quickly...
So what's the word ?? I'd be fine with steel if they could be made quiet..
It was a little embarrassing pulling up to stops watching people cover their ears !! LOL
Thanks everyone
What are the opinions for street use ?? I had an '08 GT3 with steel brakes and they made a LOT of noise on the street...especially at LOW speed coming to a stop. They of course made zero noise when driven at speed. I had the dealer clean and inspect/adjust...but the noise came back very quickly...
So what's the word ?? I'd be fine with steel if they could be made quiet..
It was a little embarrassing pulling up to stops watching people cover their ears !! LOL
Thanks everyone
08-06-2010, 12:59 PM
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Squealing will be the same based on pad material transfer and a successful bed-in operation.
I've had the '07 GT3 in factory steel and ceramic. They were both quiet.
There's no justifying the expense of the ceramics in the 2010 cars in terms of performance over the steels, but if you can justify it to your own finances, then the ceramics are appealing and rewarding in their own right.
If you read the other ceramics thread, it looks like the aftermarket might have passed the factory (in cost and performance.) If I were building an RS today, I'd be tempted to go with factory iron and get the aftermarket brake kit from Movit just to see what's possible.
You could argue that the resale of the Movit kit is possibly 80% while the PCCB is perhaps 20%.
Given the "... and the horse you rode in on" policy from Porsche (at least in North America) on warranty, I'm not sure I want $8K+ rotors that have basically zero warranty -- anything goes wrong, it's your liability. For the $24K kit from Movit, I'd want a real warranty to back up their claims.
I've had the '07 GT3 in factory steel and ceramic. They were both quiet.
There's no justifying the expense of the ceramics in the 2010 cars in terms of performance over the steels, but if you can justify it to your own finances, then the ceramics are appealing and rewarding in their own right.
If you read the other ceramics thread, it looks like the aftermarket might have passed the factory (in cost and performance.) If I were building an RS today, I'd be tempted to go with factory iron and get the aftermarket brake kit from Movit just to see what's possible.
You could argue that the resale of the Movit kit is possibly 80% while the PCCB is perhaps 20%.
Given the "... and the horse you rode in on" policy from Porsche (at least in North America) on warranty, I'm not sure I want $8K+ rotors that have basically zero warranty -- anything goes wrong, it's your liability. For the $24K kit from Movit, I'd want a real warranty to back up their claims.
08-06-2010, 02:36 PM
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08-06-2010, 03:16 PM
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That looks okay, but I prefer the white-sandy beach, perfect wind-surfing sort of dreams.
Anyway, I know it's naive to suppose a vendor would back up their sales pitch with a real product and a performance guarantee.
08-06-2010, 03:36 PM
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Ceramics would be my choice for the road, on my second car with them now.
Quiet, great feel, hardly any brake dust (and it's not black), and no corrosion to worry about if the car is laid up for a few weeks at a time like mine is.
Quiet, great feel, hardly any brake dust (and it's not black), and no corrosion to worry about if the car is laid up for a few weeks at a time like mine is.
08-06-2010, 04:08 PM
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PCCB for the street all day long. the wear and tear is minimal on them and no winter rust during storage is a bonus.
even light track use they are cost effective.
The abilty to swap to iron rotors is the true bonus here.
even light track use they are cost effective.
The abilty to swap to iron rotors is the true bonus here.
