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Old 02-09-2010, 07:57 AM
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Well that should allow them to address the rear weight bias issue...

http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/02/08...-24-hour-race/

'A hybrid Porsche sports car? Well, it definitely is possible as long as it doesn’t compromise performance – that’s Porsche philosophy. According to sources, Porsche will be putting that philosophy to the test at the Nurburgring 24 Hours race later this year with a hybrid Porsche 911. Reports suggest that the Porsche 911 GT3-RSR is being prepared by engineers to run as a gasoline-electric hybrid using an F1-style KERS system.

Porsche had not comment on the report.

“It is not a question of yes or no, but a question of how and when,” said Porsche motorsport boss Hartmut Kristen when AutoCar asked about the company’s hybrid intentions.

“We believe that the future of motorsport is not only with the conventional internal-combustion engine,” he said. “We have to think about the alternatives. When you see the red-hot discs on a racing car, you have to think about all the energy being wasted.”

Porsche is preparing to launch a hybrid version
of the Cayenne and Panamera later this year.

- By: Kap Shah

Source: AutoCar'
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This is inconsistent with a report not so long ago saying exactly the opposite, i.e., they did not see hybrid in a 911 ever.
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I don't understand why they don't keep the 911 shape, move the engine to mid-ship which would allow a boxster8 engine, and call it the 998 or 999.
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porsche has been moving the engies in these cars forward by millimeters every facelift.... but it will always remain a car with the engine over the rear wheels.... thats a 911

if you want anything else than buy a cayman!
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i doubt it will be electric or hybrid.. it might just employ kers which put a small electric "engine" in the car for energy recovery and use
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Originally Posted by mobonic
if you want anything else than buy a cayman!
I would consider it for the mid-engine design and balance, but the one I drove was gutless. I'm hooked on the boost.
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There is already a precedent for a mid engine 911, the GT1... So they can loose the useless rear seats and put a flat 8 in there.
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Originally Posted by mobonic
porsche has been moving the engies in these cars forward by millimeters every facelift.... but it will always remain a car with the engine over the rear wheels.... thats a 911

if you want anything else than buy a cayman!
Interesting.

What would you buy then if the Cayman platform was not held back by concerns about the 911; ie, was based with the 3.6, optioned with the 3.8, and available as a GT variant - That is, truly an equal ?

I know what I would do .... But then again I could not care less about history or cachet.

My bet is the 'Cayman platform' will end up the new 911 in a few years time, re-packaged of course and explained away thru marketing-speak ...
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the cayman is mid engined but hardly "optimized" in terms of suspension geometry, engine mounts, etc.

that being said...never is a long time to fight against.

I really truly believe that porsche should build a GT3RS version of the audi R8. that would be baby making in the highest automotive form.
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^ Really interesting! Would you have it lose the awd?

Re the suspension/engine mts, there is no engineering reason that the suspension of the Cayman could not be equal in all respects. Right now the Cayman suspension is really two 997 front ends, one at each end. I don't think Porsche Engineers lack the knowledge or means. The 'optimization' issues are a result of marketing: cost to build and price point. ..

Just saying.
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Just be done with it and build a new Carrera GT:
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That car will be out of the price range of most Porsche drivers, probably in the CGT realm.

A buddy of mine had his Cayman done up with the TPC turbo kit. I have not driven it but it's fast. A factory twin turbo Cayman would be a hot seller if they kept the price reasonable.
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The WHAT IF game is nice to play .... but never logical.

Porsche is in business to make money and they will never get rid of the 911 platform (911 platform being a rear engined car)

PERHAPS they will make a Cayman GT car in the future but I THINK they will never make a Cayman all it can be unless its a new CGT! (Which is a big cayman - mid engine platform).

No matter what I will always stick with 911 GT's .... but that dies not mean I would never buy a cayman and stick a TPC twin turbo kit in one, strip it and put a full cage in it
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Originally Posted by Land Jet
That car will be out of the price range of most Porsche drivers, probably in the CGT realm.

A buddy of mine had his Cayman done up with the TPC turbo kit. I have not driven it but it's fast. A factory twin turbo Cayman would be a hot seller if they kept the price reasonable.
Buddy of mine has a TPC Cayman and it is an absolute rocket! The thing drives like a normal daily driver.. till you mash the gas and it totally takes off! Almost doesn't feel turbocharged..

check the dyno:

http://www.tpcracing.com/products/TP...n-S-Turbo-Kit/


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