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Old 01-04-2010 | 09:01 AM
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Hi Joe, what they said..

you got it all wrong...
the REAL question is how much money you plan to burn....
The real question is; Does he want to wait till Feb ;-)
Old 01-04-2010 | 09:52 AM
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Funny how the 2010 is a faster car in the minds of their owners, but in all but a select few, the REAL limiting factor is the driver.... not the slight improvements a 2010 GT3 has over a 2007 GT3.


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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
Funny how the 2010 is a faster car in the minds of their owners, but in all but a select few, the REAL limiting factor is the driver....
For the record, I was recently playing with a 997.1 GT3 (highway, clear road and visibility, dry conditions, etc. - please, no lectures) and my '10 GT3 clearly pulled him by a couple of car lengths from 90 to 145 or so before we had to back off. Not a huge difference, but a clear margin. Depending on the track, this might of course not be as readily discernable and indeed would be far outweighed by driver skill. But apples to apples, it does appear that the extra power and torque are a point of differentiation.

And the sound of two GT3s at full song...glorious!
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Originally Posted by triode
For the record, I was recently playing with a 997.1 GT3 (highway, clear road and visibility, dry conditions, etc. - please, no lectures) and my '10 GT3 clearly pulled him by a couple of car lengths from 90 to 145 or so before we had to back off. Not a huge difference, but a clear margin. Depending on the track, this might of course not be as readily discernable and indeed would be far outweighed by driver skill. But apples to apples, it does appear that the extra power and torque are a point of differentiation.

And the sound of two GT3s at full song...glorious!
LOL and for the record I did say "faster", you have defined "quicker"

Is that worth the extra $$? IMO, and no slight intended to triode, there's not a high degree of skill required in going quick. Large Kahunas.. maybe!!

However if you have the skill set required to truly go fast, then certainly I agree.

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how often do you intend to track it? if you really want to save the money forget the gt3 and just use your tt as occasional track car and maintain it as needed. if youre still a novice on track will take long time until you can take advantage of gt3 vs tt.
Old 01-04-2010 | 11:20 PM
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Why not a used Cup car?
You want it for the track only anyways as you have a TT....stay focused and get the real deal
Old 01-05-2010 | 12:01 AM
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Batman's got a point. But you need a trailer etc.
Old 01-05-2010 | 01:36 AM
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I would recommend a 996gt3. Car is stupidly cheap right now - in the 40k range and will offer 95-99% of the performance of either generation of 997GT3.
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there was a track prepped white gt3 for sale recently on this site or 6speed. Owner put about 10-15K in track mods. seems like the right way to go if you're looking for a track car yourself. I love the 997.2 GT3 in terms of look, but at $85K with track mods, the .1 GT3 is the much better value and choice.
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Originally Posted by batmanm3
Why not a used Cup car?
You want it for the track only anyways as you have a TT....stay focused and get the real deal
one, you need a real trailer: $30k. i mean a REAL trailer, with storage, enclosed, hydrogen tank blah blah...

two, you need a real tow vehicle. anything that's not diesel and less than 3/4 ton is not a REAL tow vehicle.

three, you need tires. a lot of them. i run about 12 sets of R888 a year. if i had to pay 12 sets of michelin blue.... that's about 25,000 in rubber alone.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Hi Joe, what they said..



The real question is; Does he want to wait till Feb ;-)

"wait" that's a new vocabulary for me....

btw.... i was told that i will have a similar car like yours ;-)
Old 01-05-2010 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by richk
Or get the 2007 and the lwfw, sharkwerks bypass, and a set of track wheels and tires. That to me is the most prudent cost effective way to go. I have an 07RS and could not justify the cost didfferential for an 2010RS. And I will be driving the 3.9 car in the next couple of weeks...come on down Alex!!!
dont drive the 3.9 rich.
it's a POS, but if you drive it, you will want it.....
Old 01-05-2010 | 04:35 AM
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A lot of people brought up some good points to consider. One more is how long are you going to have this car? You should not only be thinking about $$$ today, but also tomorrow. Back in 2007, 996 GT3s that were $104K to $112K new (pretty much all sold for list) were in the $70k to $80K range when the 997 GT3 came out. The 07' GT3 had a base price of $106K with most cars in optioned in the $112K to $120K range (and again most sold for list). Back in 2007, it was also a $40k-$45k decision to go with a used 04 versus a new 07. Today, an 07' is in the $85-95 range while a decent 996 GT3 is around $50k...close to the same difference. A 996 GT3 has the least risk for resale today. No I am not going to even try to get into the 997.1 RS with people paying as much $40K over list when they were new and now looking at what they sell for today. Just realize if you buy one new, it is going to be really hard to justify upgrading in 3 years.

Also realize that the options and standard equipment changed by models. Going from the 996 to the 997.1, you got PSM standard and new options like Adaptive Sport Seats and Sound Plus that were not available previously. With the 10' Bi-xenon headlights are now standard, Sport Buckets are a $3K option and Dynamic Engine mounts are a $1.1K options that were options previously available on the earlier cars. Sports Buckets are $6.5K through parts and Dynamic engine mounts aren't even available as a retrofit yet. As a retrofit, they are likely to require the car to be re-wired with new harnesses and an ECU upgrade, which could be extremely expensive.

The 10' GT3, already out of production as the factory is switching over to RS production, has substantually less numbers built than the 07-08s. When the economy collapsed, Porsche cut production across the board; including producing less than half the number of GT3s they built for 07'. If fact, last year Porsche laid off 15% of their global workforce and is continuing to cut back on production hours until March 2010. This was done to realign supply with demand. Porsche is assuming that this will help stabilize resale going forward, but we won't if it worked for a couple of years.

Looking at the 3.9l upgrade is a good option only for a car you are looking at keeping. There is a huge issue if you are looking to turn the car and doing this upgrade as no dealer is going to give you squat for the engine upgrade. Once this conversion is done, the car could never be certified. In fact, Porsche no longer has to honor any of the drivetrain warranty. Best option for this upgrade would be a lower cost used car that is either out or close to being out of warranty.
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"wait" that's a new vocabulary for me....

btw.... i was told that i will have a similar car like yours ;-)
Cool.
I knew it would be hours, not days.. Another white one right? Like your previous ones.
Pure track car, or will you drive it on the street?
Old 01-06-2010 | 04:12 PM
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Mooty, you carry Hydrogen?? For what, the flame thrower?

Originally Posted by mooty
one, you need a real trailer: $30k. i mean a REAL trailer, with storage, enclosed, hydrogen tank blah blah...

two, you need a real tow vehicle. anything that's not diesel and less than 3/4 ton is not a REAL tow vehicle.

three, you need tires. a lot of them. i run about 12 sets of R888 a year. if i had to pay 12 sets of michelin blue.... that's about 25,000 in rubber alone.


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