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Old 07-01-2009, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBB0730
Anyone have any idea how many will be made? How many year models?....
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I was told yesterday by the dealer where I placed a deposit last year on the RS that the feeling is that it has been pushed back to late 2011 or later.

Maybe he was talking about my chances of getting one .

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they will make as many as they can sell.
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what is the minimum homologation # for RSR?
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Originally Posted by va122
they will make as many as they can sell.
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Get a deposit in early and let them know you're serious. Get the name of your regional rep and send a letter explaining why you want an RS - you're tracking the car, you want LWFW and lighter exhaust, which voids the warranty on standard GT3, etc. You'll get a car. Porsche needs to and will sell as many as they can, but they also need to separate real deposits from dreamers/speculators in order not to import too many cars.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
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Get a deposit in early and let them know you're serious. Get the name of your regional rep and send a letter explaining why you want an RS - you're tracking the car, you want LWFW and lighter exhaust, which voids the warranty on standard GT3, etc. .
I would not advise anyone to put in writing their intention to track the car (warranty reasons), unless by "tracking" you meant "closely following its development"..
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
what is the minimum homologation # for RSR?
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Makes sense guys. The book value on the 04 vs 05 GT3 is a considerable difference. So, I'm wondering if that will be true on the 07 vs 08 RS and, if made, 10 vs 11 RS. Might be worthwhile to wait a few extra months. But, I would hate to miss out on an allocation because of it. Just like when I bought the 07 RS, it was very difficult to find out any firm info on the car.
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^ no

i had 04 and 05 GT3, when i sold them, there was no difference in price. if it's a collector buying 100 mile cars, yes, but once it's got 10k miles on it, no difference.

i also had 07 and 08 RS. the 08 had only 5000 miles and a higher sticker, but sold much less than the 07 with 20,000 miles. sure, partly due to economy but really if the car isn't super low miles selling to a collector, i doubt there's a difference. the dealer will tell you so, but if i were buying, i wont care.
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First, Porsche has made no definite announcement that there will be an RS or if one will come to the US. Everything to date is still speculation. Even in the European press announcement, they said "maybe" there will be an RS model. In fact, all those early spy photos and videos of the "RS" last year ended up being the regular GT3 that just came out.

Remember how everyone made such a big deal about the RS not having a sunroof. Porsche got over 1000 contacts from people wanting a GT3 without a sunroof and hence decided the 07' RS would not have one. For 2010, no GT3s get sunroofs. It is not even an option. They also get a stiffer suspension and significantly more downforce with the revised nose and rear wing than the previous RS had. So how much more of a change would there really be to an RS model? Would you be willing to pay $20-40k more for a bigger rear wing, painted wheels and side graphics?

Here is the last thing to think about. The production of 2010 GT3s is going to be far lower than 2004 or 2007. No dealer got over 6 allocations and most small dealers got none. Figure total production between 250 and 500 for the US for 2010. That is between a half an a quarter of 2004 or 2007 production. Porsche is backing down production for several reasons that include a changing market, helping buyers maintain resale and keeping their exclusive cars...exclusive.

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Originally Posted by mooty
^ no

i had 04 and 05 GT3, when i sold them, there was no difference in price. if it's a collector buying 100 mile cars, yes, but once it's got 10k miles on it, no difference.

i also had 07 and 08 RS. the 08 had only 5000 miles and a higher sticker, but sold much less than the 07 with 20,000 miles. sure, partly due to economy but really if the car isn't super low miles selling to a collector, i doubt there's a difference. the dealer will tell you so, but if i were buying, i wont care.
Good point John. However, I'm looking at them from a book value perspective, which is what dealers look at as well. KBB has a sig difference between the 04 and 05 GT3.
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I agree. 05's seem to be about $10K over an 04'. 05' production was around 1/10th 04'. 05's are far rarer cars. The same goes for 08's over 07's.
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Originally Posted by 02 Carrera
I agree. 05's seem to be about $10K over an 04'. 05' production was around 1/10th 04'. 05's are far rarer cars. The same goes for 08's over 07's.
I think the value difference between years 04/05 and 07/08 is next to nothing. If someone offers you $10k more for the later year, I recommend you take it. Once the issue of the 1-year longer warranty is moot (even that is dependent on in-service date), it will mean nothing (unless you have a no-mile collector).

If there was any substantive difference between the model years, then the story would be different. I'm aware of no such differences (except maybe the color palette for standard and special paint colors).
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Originally Posted by 02 Carrera
Porsche is backing down production for several reasons that include a changing market, helping buyers maintain resale and keeping their exclusive cars...exclusive.
Agree with backing down production due to changing market, but Porsche won't care at all whether your car is exclusive or not, they will produce as many as they can sell if people keep buying.

Besides, they are too busy marketing the Panamera and working on the next gen Cayenne, this is where the money is.
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Originally Posted by ZBB0730
Good point John. However, I'm looking at them from a book value perspective, which is what dealers look at as well. KBB has a sig difference between the 04 and 05 GT3.
yes KBB has a value differnece. but it's purely due to year (as any newer car will worth more than older car), not rarity of 04 to 05.

just try to sell your 04 and 05 to dealer, you get 3000 more tops. i am talking about cars with real mileage.

if garage queen, then yes 05 is substantially more $ than 04


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