Zed Oohh Six Test Drive
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I have driven the C5 and C6. They're great performance cars. They perform well, except brakes but that's an easy fix.
However, the driver's feedback is not that fun. Engine sound is incredible, but pedals, shifter, steering, seats have a lot to be improved, and these are essential areas that connect the driver with the car. I don't mind the plastic interior or the Chevy Cobalt steering wheel, but I would like better feedback.
Yes, the ZR-1 and Viper ACR are faster than any Porsche road car, but when I buy a car I look for a nice balance of fun, performance and price, and Porsche beats all the other brands in these three factors combined.
The C5 Z06 is the best performance money can buy right now. Affordable car, quite reliable, just needs better brakes and good shocks and gets track ready.
Paul, on that budget, get a 997TT and install the Bilstein B16 Damptronic sold as an upgrade for the 997 GT2 ($4k installed). Find one with the Adaptive seats.
However, the driver's feedback is not that fun. Engine sound is incredible, but pedals, shifter, steering, seats have a lot to be improved, and these are essential areas that connect the driver with the car. I don't mind the plastic interior or the Chevy Cobalt steering wheel, but I would like better feedback.
Yes, the ZR-1 and Viper ACR are faster than any Porsche road car, but when I buy a car I look for a nice balance of fun, performance and price, and Porsche beats all the other brands in these three factors combined.
The C5 Z06 is the best performance money can buy right now. Affordable car, quite reliable, just needs better brakes and good shocks and gets track ready.
Paul, on that budget, get a 997TT and install the Bilstein B16 Damptronic sold as an upgrade for the 997 GT2 ($4k installed). Find one with the Adaptive seats.
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...IF You have been in 911s for awhile like me or you like small nimble cars you will immediately feel out of place in a Z06. The car is huge. I have only driven ONE Dodge viper and that was years ago (2004) but all the memories came flooding back. Its truck like. Unless you feel claustrophobic in a 911 youre going to feel like youre in a Truck. Now that truck is fast and its nimble for that size but its an affront to all your Porsche honed senses...
Porsche GT3 dimensions
Length 176.93 in
Width 72.91 in
Height 50.51 in
Corvette (C6) ZO6 dimensions:
Height 49.1 in - 1247 mm
Length 175.6 in - 4460 mm
Width 75.9 in - 1927 mm
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like I said earlier its the wideness. THe whole thing is carried out in a different manner.
Rad I think you know where I am going!!
Jack I thought I said somewhere there is not much support in the seats.
on the track you would be SO sore from driving the Z06.
like I said earlier its the wideness. THe whole thing is carried out in a different manner.
Rad I think you know where I am going!!
Jack I thought I said somewhere there is not much support in the seats.
on the track you would be SO sore from driving the Z06.
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Those comparing the exterior dimensions of a Z06 and saying it's smaller are kinda missing the point. One of the most significant dimensions when it comes to driving feel is the wheelbase, and on a Corvette it isn't smaller:
Z06: 105.7 inches
911: 92.5 inches
That is an enormous difference when it comes to cornering.
Z06: 105.7 inches
911: 92.5 inches
That is an enormous difference when it comes to cornering.
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I drove my C5 Corvette for 10 years as a daily driver and seriously considered replacing it with a new
Z06, did the test drive and everything. I'm not bashing the Corvette at all, I don't think you can accuse me of bashing when I just spent 10 years driving one. But the new Z06 just doesn't compare favorably with a used 997TT, for all the reasons mentioned above, build quality and driver involvement being the most important to me (rather than just outright performance). I've decided to go the used 997TT route and in my opinion at 80K they are now a terrific value.
Z06, did the test drive and everything. I'm not bashing the Corvette at all, I don't think you can accuse me of bashing when I just spent 10 years driving one. But the new Z06 just doesn't compare favorably with a used 997TT, for all the reasons mentioned above, build quality and driver involvement being the most important to me (rather than just outright performance). I've decided to go the used 997TT route and in my opinion at 80K they are now a terrific value.
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Those comparing the exterior dimensions of a Z06 and saying it's smaller are kinda missing the point. One of the most significant dimensions when it comes to driving feel is the wheelbase, and on a Corvette it isn't smaller:
Z06: 105.7 inches
911: 92.5 inches
That is an enormous difference when it comes to cornering.
Z06: 105.7 inches
911: 92.5 inches
That is an enormous difference when it comes to cornering.
More importantly it's down to feel and no doubt about it, it feels bigger/massive. Believe me I had a C5 ZO6 for about 7 years whilst having a 996 GT3 and the difference was night and day.
Now maybe if you change the stupid, plastic, leaf-spring, suspension to a proper coilover...hmm.
And OG is right the seats are rubbish! The steering, pedals, shifter and other intrical parts are way too soft!
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when I owned one; proprioceptively, I felt out of balance and touch with the external aspects of the car.
Gobs of power and lots of fun...very hot when the tunnel warmed up and felt exceedingly unsteady and light wrt the front end at any speed over 130...I was not overly confidence inspired by the car but it was fun to play with that power...same interior as my suburban
what's wrong with Sea Rays as long as they don't have 4 wheels??....(we have a 52' sedan bridge that is perfect for weekend partying
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Gobs of power and lots of fun...very hot when the tunnel warmed up and felt exceedingly unsteady and light wrt the front end at any speed over 130...I was not overly confidence inspired by the car but it was fun to play with that power...same interior as my suburban
what's wrong with Sea Rays as long as they don't have 4 wheels??....(we have a 52' sedan bridge that is perfect for weekend partying
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Maybe I have been watching too much Discovery TV but I want a 168' Crabbing vessel, with a luxury lounge for the TV show guys.
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What exactly is your definition of "significantly shorter and lighter" ? ? ?
Corvette Z06 curb weight 3180 lbs.(GM website)
Porsche GT3 curb weight 3075 lbs. (Porsche.com)
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Corvette Z06 length 175.6 inches (GM website)
Porsche GT3 length 175.7 inches (Porsche.com)
Corvette Z06 wheelbase 105.7 inches (GM website)
Porsche GT3 wheelbase92.7 inches (Porsche.com)
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Corvette Z06 width 75.9 inches (GM website)
Porsche GT3 width71.1 inches (Porsche.com)
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I' not quite sure what your definition of "significant" is, but you might want to check your references before posting.
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when I owned one; proprioceptively, I felt out of balance and touch with the external aspects of the car.
Gobs of power and lots of fun...very hot when the tunnel warmed up and felt exceedingly unsteady and light wrt the front end at any speed over 130...I was not overly confidence inspired by the car but it was fun to play with that power...same interior as my suburban...
Gobs of power and lots of fun...very hot when the tunnel warmed up and felt exceedingly unsteady and light wrt the front end at any speed over 130...I was not overly confidence inspired by the car but it was fun to play with that power...same interior as my suburban...