More Info on PCCB Wear
04-11-2009, 10:44 AM
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Not sure I ever got the official answer on this. Can you keep PCCB calipers, and swap in iron rotors? Not top of the line, but at least as good as Porsche OEM iron?
Is this a DIY job?
Is this a DIY job?
04-12-2009, 03:04 AM
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One of my rotors has a quarter sized chip on the outside edge. I am going to take it to the dealer to see if they will replace it. Yes I track the car. No, I have never been in a gravel pit or other similar potential cause for damage. I hope they do the right thing. They cost $5.5K per corner. I replaced all 4 with iron for tracking, but want to have a complete set of PCCBs when I sell the car - IF that ever happens.
Ive heard a lot of PCCB owners say this. Why even bother with PCCB if they are so expensive to buy and service, are fragile AND, other than weight, offer no better braking performance. I dont get it?
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04-12-2009, 12:57 PM
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I think "hearsay" is the problem you are having, and the reason you don't get it.
Most who have driven the ceramics, even on the track, seem to prefer them, and the braking experience with them is sublime, much better than steels. Since the car is lighter (with ceramics) then the stopping has to be quicker.... laws of physics. Even if steels have similar stopping power the weight will make a difference, also in trail braking and turning.
The debate starts around the cost and relative worth of the option, versus intended uses. But there is not much debate about them being better brakes.
I love the ceramics for all uses.
Most who have driven the ceramics, even on the track, seem to prefer them, and the braking experience with them is sublime, much better than steels. Since the car is lighter (with ceramics) then the stopping has to be quicker.... laws of physics. Even if steels have similar stopping power the weight will make a difference, also in trail braking and turning.
The debate starts around the cost and relative worth of the option, versus intended uses. But there is not much debate about them being better brakes.
I love the ceramics for all uses.
04-12-2009, 02:07 PM
#35
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yes you can keep the calipers. I never did it since my rotors lasted 60,000 miles on the rear. The fronts (GENi) lasted about 28,000. The Genii up front are smooth as glass and have >30,000 miles on the. When looking for a new can I wanted PCCB. I like everything about them and with the price for a set of fronts down to $7400 they become almost economical even for a track *****. 45 less pounds of rotating unsprung weight is a good thing.
04-12-2009, 05:54 PM
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There are several direct replacement rotor options to shelve the ceramics and run iron at the track. Check with your preferred local shop or any of the Rennlist sponsors like sharkwerks for the correct parts. This is certainly at the "1 out of 5" end of the DIY difficulty spectrum so long as you can use a torque wrench. Porsche recommends new caliper bolts at each service, but I don't know that many people actually bother on their own cars other than "every couple of years."
04-12-2009, 05:59 PM
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04-13-2009, 01:56 PM
#41
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Pads (and probably to a lesser extent the rotors):
996GT3: Front wore 2x the rears as with nearly all other Porsche made
997GT3: REARS wear 2X the FRONTS due to the very active TC/PSM
I have the Brembo setups to replace the factoy PCCB - shoot me an e-mail: rennstore@comcast.net
996GT3: Front wore 2x the rears as with nearly all other Porsche made
997GT3: REARS wear 2X the FRONTS due to the very active TC/PSM
I have the Brembo setups to replace the factoy PCCB - shoot me an e-mail: rennstore@comcast.net
04-13-2009, 06:57 PM
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04-15-2009, 07:17 PM
#43
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yes you can keep the calipers. I never did it since my rotors lasted 60,000 miles on the rear. The fronts (GENi) lasted about 28,000. The Genii up front are smooth as glass and have >30,000 miles on the. When looking for a new can I wanted PCCB. I like everything about them and with the price for a set of fronts down to $7400 they become almost economical even for a track *****. 45 less pounds of rotating unsprung weight is a good thing.
04-15-2009, 07:37 PM
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Nordschleife Master
did you see the video of the smart car test crash against a c class MB? It was launched backwards in the air and made a 420 rotation.
