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Old 02-07-2009, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Mous3
I could be wrong but by looking at the updates of the 2009 RSR, there isn't enough changes made to the car to meet the FIA GT2 regulations for homologation.

I'm not sure what you mean.
Most of the changes made to the 2009 car were made to meet the 2009 regs.
There are of course, other improvements to the car.
Old 02-07-2009, 04:59 AM
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Also - From PMNA spec sheet:
Old 02-07-2009, 10:43 AM
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here is a better picture of the new GT3
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Old 02-07-2009, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyderidol
I'm not sure what you mean.
Most of the changes made to the 2009 car were made to meet the 2009 regs.
There are of course, other improvements to the car.
What I meant is there may be not enough changes made to the RSR to re-homologate with a new RS.
Old 02-07-2009, 10:04 PM
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I've heard that there aren't enough changes as well to need to re-homologate with a new RS as well. True, we'll never know until we know, but I'm guessing we won't see another RS version until the 998 cars come out.
Old 02-07-2009, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by daedton
I've heard that there aren't enough changes as well to need to re-homologate with a new RS as well. True, we'll never know until we know, but I'm guessing we won't see another RS version until the 998 cars come out.
+1!

Totally agree. Porsche would have hinted at it in the press release for the 'new' GT3, if this was the case. I would love to believe that the next RS is on the way, as I have a deposit on it, but I am afraid we will have to wait another couple of years at least
Old 02-08-2009, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CorsicanBB
+1!

Totally agree. Porsche would have hinted at it in the press release for the 'new' GT3, if this was the case. I would love to believe that the next RS is on the way, as I have a deposit on it, but I am afraid we will have to wait another couple of years at least
Agreed. With the lighter flywheel and sunroof delete in the new model, the only way I can see them credibly offering a 997.2 RS is with a 4.0 engine.
Old 02-08-2009, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by am722
Agreed. With the lighter flywheel and sunroof delete in the new model, the only way I can see them credibly offering a 997.2 RS is with a 4.0 engine.
Not necessarily true! For the rest of the world, the only differentiation is the wide body, lightened panels, roll cage, suspension upgrades, RS graphics, limited numbers and differing colors and they can still do all of that at the +20% price premium with the mkII version- even for the US market. Engine differentiation has never been the case so why would they start now???

Even the fly wheel is just a "lightened" dual mass flywheel. The RS would prob just get the single mass LFW again.... And the sunroof has never been a point of difference except in the US.
Old 02-08-2009, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Mous3
What I meant is there may be not enough changes made to the RSR to re-homologate with a new RS.
Ok, I'm with you now.

The current RSR is homolgated as a 2009 car and thus still "covered" under the "old" homologation for the RS.
Should a new RS come along (with enough changes that warrant new homologation) the then(say 2010/2011 RSR will require re-homologation.

You cant homologate a race car to a street car that is not yet in production.
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Some of the Homologation rules:

2.2.3 – lapsed Homologation
The homologation will become lapsed :
a/ The year following the stop of the production if a
minimum of 200 road cars has not been produced (50
for a "small manufacturer")
b/ 7 years after the stop of the production if at least a
minimum of 200 road cars has been produced (50 for
a "small manufacturer")
2.2.4 - Maximum of race cars admitted:
For each car entered in a race, a minimum of 9 road cars
identical to the model homologated by the ACO must be
produced. It is for the manufacturer to inform the ACO
about the development of the production.
2.2.5. –Evolution of the type:
Modifications introduced for good on the road model
homologated will be permitted provided this model thus
modified fully respect the eligibility criteria as defined above
including the minimum of production;
The evolutions should be described on the homologation
form and approved by the ACO. They will be also allowed on
the old models if they are fully applied.
Old 02-08-2009, 08:10 AM
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Yeah - i think we need more news and information from Porsche asap.on 997 RS.2. If they release one , my deposit is down and will pick one up immediately, if not, then I probably hold onto my current 997 RS and NOT buy a 997 GT3.2. Think the RS is very special even against the new GT3.
Old 02-08-2009, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyderidol
Should a new RS come along (with enough changes that warrant new homologation) the then(say 2010/2011 RSR will require re-homologation.
2010/2011 RSR? That means that RSR will race in 2011. Why would Porsche want to continue to develop the 997 Chassis on the RSR for 2011 and re-homologate?

Porsche 998 is due in 2011.

I am sorry; I am now every more so of a believer that there will not be another RS on 997 platform. Some people who are selling their RS are going to have the following emoticons next to "RS"!

Old 02-09-2009, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Mous3
I am sorry; I am now every more so of a believer that there will not be another RS on 997 platform. Some people who are selling their RS are going to have the following emoticons next to "RS"!

Mous,

I'm in complete agreement. I'd bet a dollar to a dog turd that we won't see an RS until well after the next-gen (991/998) platform debuts. We're talking 2013 at best. Yes, just MHO.

Hopefully, we can all revisit this thread in four years and award us both with a nice flower bouquet, or RS's for each us from a really generous benefactor. (Yeah, I know, right....).
Old 02-09-2009, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Mous3
2010/2011 RSR? That means that RSR will race in 2011. Why would Porsche want to continue to develop the 997 Chassis on the RSR for 2011 and re-homologate?

Porsche 998 is due in 2011.

I am sorry; I am now every more so of a believer that there will not be another RS on 997 platform. Some people who are selling their RS are going to have the following emoticons next to "RS"!
Note: RSR is not necessarily 997.
Expect to see 991(AKA998) based RSR only after 991GT3RS road version is produced.
Old 02-09-2009, 06:14 AM
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The 997.2 GT3 is almost certainly going to be faster, even around a track, than the 997.1 RS. At $112k, what would that do to current RS resale prices? Except for its wild livery, the RS will seem a bit pointless next to the newer, cheaper, faster GT3.

That's why I think there'll be a 997.2 RS.


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