PCCB Motorsport ('Green') Pads
#31
- 34 events and 33,000kms driving total
- i think the rotors have about another 15 to 20 events = 50 maybe 60 in total
- i think this equals 5 maybe 6 times the length of irons (sound about right?)
- so, if it is 5x, does that make ther ceramics about 2X as expensive to run
i.e. does 2 X cost of 5 irons = cost of 1 ceramics ???? (anyone have todays prices of each from the dealer)
- i think the rotors have about another 15 to 20 events = 50 maybe 60 in total
- i think this equals 5 maybe 6 times the length of irons (sound about right?)
- so, if it is 5x, does that make ther ceramics about 2X as expensive to run
i.e. does 2 X cost of 5 irons = cost of 1 ceramics ???? (anyone have todays prices of each from the dealer)
#32
- 34 events and 33,000kms driving total
- i think the rotors have about another 15 to 20 events = 50 maybe 60 in total
- i think this equals 5 maybe 6 times the length of irons (sound about right?)
- so, if it is 5x, does that make ther ceramics about 2X as expensive to run
i.e. does 2 X cost of 5 irons = cost of 1 ceramics ???? (anyone have todays prices of each from the dealer)
- i think the rotors have about another 15 to 20 events = 50 maybe 60 in total
- i think this equals 5 maybe 6 times the length of irons (sound about right?)
- so, if it is 5x, does that make ther ceramics about 2X as expensive to run
i.e. does 2 X cost of 5 irons = cost of 1 ceramics ???? (anyone have todays prices of each from the dealer)
I know some tracks are harder on brakes than others and my home track, Sebring can be hard on brakes. I go through front 2005-09 Carrera S rotors about once every 10-12 track days at $315 for a pair. Rears last longer. So in 3 years I'd spend about $1800 or so for front and rear rotors.
The $15,000 (Suncoast Porsche) for front/rear PCCB rotors is freakin' scary!
#33
I don't disagree with this and posted this information when I first put the P50 pads in - I wouldn't send my wife out in the car without specifically telling her about the pads - up here where it is cold (i take the car out every few weeks in the winter to keep it alive) the first 2 stops you have to be careful. However on a warm summer day it is fine (still not as short stopping distance with the OE pads with a cold car but it is fine)
Also, to those using Castrol SRF (don't know about Motul), you might want to check with your Porsche Dealer, I believe it is not recommended since it is known to corrode seals (and void related warranty). Again, Porsche fluid, with proper brake usage (not over use), is considered to be all that that is required.
#34
#35
Thanks for the reply. 34 events would be about 3 years for me and that would mostly be 2 track days per event for a total of around 60 track days.
I know some tracks are harder on brakes than others and my home track, Sebring can be hard on brakes. I go through front 2005-09 Carrera S rotors about once every 10-12 track days at $315 for a pair. Rears last longer. So in 3 years I'd spend about $1800 or so for front and rear rotors.
The $15,000 (Suncoast Porsche) for front/rear PCCB rotors is freakin' scary!
I know some tracks are harder on brakes than others and my home track, Sebring can be hard on brakes. I go through front 2005-09 Carrera S rotors about once every 10-12 track days at $315 for a pair. Rears last longer. So in 3 years I'd spend about $1800 or so for front and rear rotors.
The $15,000 (Suncoast Porsche) for front/rear PCCB rotors is freakin' scary!
You would think that "the aftermarket / SGL / someone with connections" should be able to reduce $15,000 to something like $6-$8k
So, who out there is "the someone" that can source these things for 1/2 of what Porsche is charging?
With this economy, I would think that someone can still make money at $6 to $8k??
Paul
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FYI, SGL is going to ramp up production from (top of my head figs) 35k units per year to 200k units per year over the next couple of years - they expect prices to fall considerably.
#38
- rears do not last "way longer" on a 997
- that is one of the differences between the 996 and 997 (the rear bias)
- by the looks of my rotors they will last the same
#39
997gt3North, I got my PCCB and Steel rotor pricing from Suncoast Porsche, Sarasota FL. They have some of the best Porsche stock parts pricing on the internet.
I see some guys say they have 40-60,000 miles on the same PCCB's. I'd like to know truthfully how much track driving has been done and if the track is hard on brakes like Sebring is. I know the guys that run PCCB's on 997's and GT3's at Sebring and they are not seeing good wear on the PCCB rotors.
I see some guys say they have 40-60,000 miles on the same PCCB's. I'd like to know truthfully how much track driving has been done and if the track is hard on brakes like Sebring is. I know the guys that run PCCB's on 997's and GT3's at Sebring and they are not seeing good wear on the PCCB rotors.
#40
997gt3North, I got my PCCB and Steel rotor pricing from Suncoast Porsche, Sarasota FL. They have some of the best Porsche stock parts pricing on the internet.
I see some guys say they have 40-60,000 miles on the same PCCB's. I'd like to know truthfully how much track driving has been done and if the track is hard on brakes like Sebring is. I know the guys that run PCCB's on 997's and GT3's at Sebring and they are not seeing good wear on the PCCB rotors.
I see some guys say they have 40-60,000 miles on the same PCCB's. I'd like to know truthfully how much track driving has been done and if the track is hard on brakes like Sebring is. I know the guys that run PCCB's on 997's and GT3's at Sebring and they are not seeing good wear on the PCCB rotors.
I'm assuming that street driven miles have "no effect" what so ever as basically you (I) can't drive a white gt3 with an RS wing and sharkwerks exhaust around higher than the speed limit as I would end up in jail almost immediatley where I live.
I have 35 events on the car on big fast tracks like Mosport, Watkins, VIR and as well as on Limerock ,Tremblant and Calabogie. I don't know Sebring so I can't comment but these 6 tracks "I think" as a combo can't be any less demanding than Sebring (the only exception is that you likely track in warmer conditions than I do but that can't be a big factor on rotors that get to 1000 degrees).
I think my rotors are good for another 15+ events which gets them to 50 trackdays. I'm not a 10/10ths driver as I drive to and from the track but I run very comfortably in "black" run groups so the car is getting a work out - also, for information, I have used 4 sets of OE pads and I'm on my second set of greens - and I would guess that street driving has had virtually no effect on pads or rotors.
Last edited by 997gt3north; 02-10-2009 at 11:54 AM.
#41
997gt3North, I got my PCCB and Steel rotor pricing from Suncoast Porsche, Sarasota FL. They have some of the best Porsche stock parts pricing on the internet.
I see some guys say they have 40-60,000 miles on the same PCCB's. I'd like to know truthfully how much track driving has been done and if the track is hard on brakes like Sebring is. I know the guys that run PCCB's on 997's and GT3's at Sebring and they are not seeing good wear on the PCCB rotors.
I see some guys say they have 40-60,000 miles on the same PCCB's. I'd like to know truthfully how much track driving has been done and if the track is hard on brakes like Sebring is. I know the guys that run PCCB's on 997's and GT3's at Sebring and they are not seeing good wear on the PCCB rotors.