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Old 10-21-2008, 04:09 PM
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- if anyone is looking for them, a certain online Pagid provider that i contacted today (rreennnnssttoorree..ccoom) can now provide them
- thought this would be useful as not everyone is able to get them directly from Motorsport

- craig just emailed me and let me know

I have run them now for 9 events and they work well
- they are 3mm thicker than stock pads
- they are obviously better able to take the heat
- they take about two to three corners to come up to temp
- they accept brake sensors so it will help you monitor pad wear
- they are totally, totally unfadable
- sometimes they squeel on the street sometimes they don't ?
- on a really cold day if you street drive them be careful until you can warm them up
- these are the pads they race in europe with ceramics in supercup
- so far i haven't noticed "green fade" with them which was nice


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Old 10-21-2008, 05:42 PM
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I have been using them for 4 years. Great stuff
Old 10-21-2008, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 997gt3north
- if anyone is looking for them, a certain online Pagid provider that i contacted today (rreennnnssttoorree..ccoom) can now provide them
- thought this would be useful as not everyone is able to get them directly from Motorsport

- craig just emailed me and let me know

I have run them now for 9 events and they work well
- they are 3mm thicker than stock pads
- they are obviously better able to take the heat
- they take about two to three corners to come up to temp
- they accept brake sensors so it will help you monitor pad wear
- they are totally, totally unfadable
- sometimes they squeel on the street sometimes they don't ?
- on a really cold day if you street drive them be careful until you can warm them up
- these are the pads they race in europe with ceramics in supercup
- so far i haven't noticed "green fade" with them which was nice


Paul
Paul, do you have the part numbers for these pads? thanks...
Old 10-21-2008, 06:44 PM
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- believe part numbers are

P50 PCCB Pads 997 GT3

PMN 351 940 93
PMN 352 930 91

someone else confirm?

pagid has put through prices increases so not sure who has the best price
Old 10-21-2008, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 997gt3north
- believe part numbers are

P50 PCCB Pads 997 GT3

PMN 351 940 93
PMN 352 930 91

someone else confirm?

pagid has put through prices increases so not sure who has the best price
Correct.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/417272-pccb-tsb-gt2-gt3-possible.html
Old 10-21-2008, 10:50 PM
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Paul do you leave the sensors in? I did the last time but thinking I would like to bag them what you say?
Old 10-22-2008, 03:59 AM
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Are these the green pads?
I cant wait to get them next time
Old 10-22-2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by todinlaw
Paul do you leave the sensors in? I did the last time but thinking I would like to bag them what you say?
If you are good at checking your pads then I say tie them up out of the way and save the money.
I have been able to reuse the sensors at least once as with a little finesse they can be easily removed and re-installed
I like having them in there as i have been surprised a few times in early ownership of the car how quickly the rears went.
When I do DE's i generally do days when I'm on the track 6 or more sessions and as such it is good piece of mind for me
Now that I'm running the P50s and I'm always looking at the rear pad thickness I could easily get buy without the sensors - but with $2500 rotors a small mistake just costs stupid money so I will keep using them.
Old 10-22-2008, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by crispenigl
Are these the green pads?
I cant wait to get them next time
Yes

A further update as I remember from my last order, while the Porsche Part number for the rears actually ends in 1, the part number written on the Pagid pad actually ends with a 2.


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Old 10-22-2008, 07:46 PM
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the rotors are a lot more than 2500...
Old 10-23-2008, 03:54 AM
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BTW are the sensors the same for a 997 GT3 as for a 997 GT3 RS ? Somewhere I read they are different. I have a normal GT3 and my sensors lasted about one hour before they melted (on a hot day at Monza...). Are the RS ones any better ? Are there any tricks to prevent meltdown ?

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Explain something to me.

I understand these P50 pads will help the car stop better. Aren't they more agressive on the rotors? i.e., less time needed before rotors need replacement? I seem to recall seeing some messages that these are better if you track for wear. Now I'm confused.

Are these or are they not the same as the Porsche Motorsport green pads?
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sws, you're kinda mixed up. the green pads actually work better at higher temps (tracking) and take longer to degrade the rotors. the standard pads (street) are so soft that they overheat, wear is accelerated, the pad fails, then the rotors get whacked.

basically- if you're tracking, they're a good idea. if you never track, the street pads are fine.

either way the key is how you bed them in- it will extend the life of all the parts if you get a nice amount of pad material to transfer to the rotor during the bed-in process- it gives them better grip, just like how slick tires leave material on the tarmac during a race and times get faster.
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Originally Posted by sws1
Are these or are they not the same as the Porsche Motorsport green pads?
- yes these are the Porsche Motorsport Green pads
- also known as Pagid P50s


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