Seeking advice: track set of 19 inch rims and tires
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Seeking advice: track set of 19 inch rims and tires
Hi Folks,
Ran into a fellow Rennlister at ButtonWillow track this last weekend. His performance versus my car with better tires was amazing. It didnt help that I had cords showing on my drivers side rear tire (inside edge), even though I had plenty of meat elsewhere on the tire. My MPSC just felt greasy and I had no where near his grip.
So...........
I am looking to get a dedicated set of rims and tires for track events as the MPSC's just get heat cycled too often as my sometimes daily driver for effective performance at the track.
All the threads I have looked at so far seem to focus on dropping to 18 inch wheels and going with something like a Hoosier tire.
I cannot go with 18 inch rims right since I have PCCB's? So, can anyone recommend 19 inch rims and tires that would work with my pccbs?
Thanks,
Greg
ps. Simon thanks for the laps this weekend
Ran into a fellow Rennlister at ButtonWillow track this last weekend. His performance versus my car with better tires was amazing. It didnt help that I had cords showing on my drivers side rear tire (inside edge), even though I had plenty of meat elsewhere on the tire. My MPSC just felt greasy and I had no where near his grip.
So...........
I am looking to get a dedicated set of rims and tires for track events as the MPSC's just get heat cycled too often as my sometimes daily driver for effective performance at the track.
All the threads I have looked at so far seem to focus on dropping to 18 inch wheels and going with something like a Hoosier tire.
I cannot go with 18 inch rims right since I have PCCB's? So, can anyone recommend 19 inch rims and tires that would work with my pccbs?
Thanks,
Greg
ps. Simon thanks for the laps this weekend
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Oh wow, I was thinking 18" rims too but I have PCCBs too. Are there any 18" rims that fit the PCCBs?
Greg let me know wha you find out.
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fikse 18" will clear your pccb no prob.
if you insist on 19", HRE got some nice wheels. talk to alex at sharkwerks, see my signature.
do not run hoosiers just yet. good tires do not make you faster, you have to make the tires faster. i have found over 1/2 of the ppl i met on track are wasting the hoosier away. run some R888, they are faster than mpsc. once you extracted all you can from R888 then try R6.
if you insist on 19", HRE got some nice wheels. talk to alex at sharkwerks, see my signature.
do not run hoosiers just yet. good tires do not make you faster, you have to make the tires faster. i have found over 1/2 of the ppl i met on track are wasting the hoosier away. run some R888, they are faster than mpsc. once you extracted all you can from R888 then try R6.
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I looked at Volk T37 in 19" (tire rack) before dropping to 18s (CCW C10s) to spend less on a bigger selection of R compounds.
They are light, supposedly strong, and not as expensive as HRE for track use.
They are light, supposedly strong, and not as expensive as HRE for track use.
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I second mooty's call on tire choices...until you're as fast as the street tires will allow you to be, you're just wasting money on slicks. MSPC is extremely pressure and temp sensitive, and since you're wearing them out quick- my first question is what are your alignment specs, and second is what are your cold temps for the track?
I'm testing the absolute limit of the MSPC before I move on to a new tire- mainly because I've got another pair waiting in the wings. R888 seems like the next step. by the time I'm actually fast on those, I'll probably be jonesing for a cup car anyway. There are a few guys running R6 at my track (not gonna name names but there aren't many 997gt3 in my hood) and they're slower than me with my stock tires. Theoretically, going from MSPC to R6 should be worth at least a few seconds per lap- (somewhere between 1-3 seconds per mile depending on the layout, right?)
I personally like BBS wheels the best for looks, HRE second. some of the champions look cool but I've got no experience personally with them.
I'm testing the absolute limit of the MSPC before I move on to a new tire- mainly because I've got another pair waiting in the wings. R888 seems like the next step. by the time I'm actually fast on those, I'll probably be jonesing for a cup car anyway. There are a few guys running R6 at my track (not gonna name names but there aren't many 997gt3 in my hood) and they're slower than me with my stock tires. Theoretically, going from MSPC to R6 should be worth at least a few seconds per lap- (somewhere between 1-3 seconds per mile depending on the layout, right?)
I personally like BBS wheels the best for looks, HRE second. some of the champions look cool but I've got no experience personally with them.
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I think the CCW C-14 and C-10 18's will fit the PCCB's.
I don't really have a track to go to based on my location; at least not on a regular, convenient basis, but I still run 18's and went with the R888's because of the price and I have heard good things about them for almost 3 years now (took a while for the land of the free and brave to be allowed to buy these tires). I went with the 255/35/18 and 315/30/18 sizes.
I use my GT3 as a daily driver with this combo and so far I am very happy with them. I do have some excellent curvy mountain roads that begin just 10 minutes from my house, so I get to enjoy some very spirited drives on a fairly regular basis. I can't give you ultimate grip feedback on these tires, but I can tell you that I prefer them over my 19" Corsa's for the twisties, but they are noisier for regular highway crusiing (which does not bother me one bit coming from an Exige S).
When I get to the track next month (I'm praying that I get a weekend off) I will give more feedback then. But so far so good on R888's!
I don't really have a track to go to based on my location; at least not on a regular, convenient basis, but I still run 18's and went with the R888's because of the price and I have heard good things about them for almost 3 years now (took a while for the land of the free and brave to be allowed to buy these tires). I went with the 255/35/18 and 315/30/18 sizes.
I use my GT3 as a daily driver with this combo and so far I am very happy with them. I do have some excellent curvy mountain roads that begin just 10 minutes from my house, so I get to enjoy some very spirited drives on a fairly regular basis. I can't give you ultimate grip feedback on these tires, but I can tell you that I prefer them over my 19" Corsa's for the twisties, but they are noisier for regular highway crusiing (which does not bother me one bit coming from an Exige S).
When I get to the track next month (I'm praying that I get a weekend off) I will give more feedback then. But so far so good on R888's!
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fikse 18" will clear your pccb no prob.
if you insist on 19", HRE got some nice wheels. talk to alex at sharkwerks, see my signature.
do not run hoosiers just yet. good tires do not make you faster, you have to make the tires faster. i have found over 1/2 of the ppl i met on track are wasting the hoosier away. run some R888, they are faster than mpsc. once you extracted all you can from R888 then try R6.
if you insist on 19", HRE got some nice wheels. talk to alex at sharkwerks, see my signature.
do not run hoosiers just yet. good tires do not make you faster, you have to make the tires faster. i have found over 1/2 of the ppl i met on track are wasting the hoosier away. run some R888, they are faster than mpsc. once you extracted all you can from R888 then try R6.
I actually do not care too much which tire I get since I am mostly doing this to take heat cycles out of my tyres.
Do you agree that heat cycling a tire on the street kills its track performance?
Thanks,
Greg
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I second mooty's call on tire choices...until you're as fast as the street tires will allow you to be, you're just wasting money on slicks. MSPC is extremely pressure and temp sensitive, and since you're wearing them out quick- my first question is what are your alignment specs, and second is what are your cold temps for the track?
I'm testing the absolute limit of the MSPC before I move on to a new tire- mainly because I've got another pair waiting in the wings. R888 seems like the next step. by the time I'm actually fast on those, I'll probably be jonesing for a cup car anyway. There are a few guys running R6 at my track (not gonna name names but there aren't many 997gt3 in my hood) and they're slower than me with my stock tires. Theoretically, going from MSPC to R6 should be worth at least a few seconds per lap- (somewhere between 1-3 seconds per mile depending on the layout, right?)
I personally like BBS wheels the best for looks, HRE second. some of the champions look cool but I've got no experience personally with them.
I'm testing the absolute limit of the MSPC before I move on to a new tire- mainly because I've got another pair waiting in the wings. R888 seems like the next step. by the time I'm actually fast on those, I'll probably be jonesing for a cup car anyway. There are a few guys running R6 at my track (not gonna name names but there aren't many 997gt3 in my hood) and they're slower than me with my stock tires. Theoretically, going from MSPC to R6 should be worth at least a few seconds per lap- (somewhere between 1-3 seconds per mile depending on the layout, right?)
I personally like BBS wheels the best for looks, HRE second. some of the champions look cool but I've got no experience personally with them.
Hi CJ,
" MSPC is extremely pressure and temp sensitive"
I completely know this as I have plenty of first hand experience with this pattern
Do you think trying to run your 'street' set of tires on the track is a bad idea?
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I personally like BBS wheels the best for looks, HRE second. some of the champions look cool but I've got no experience personally with them"
Thanks for your feedback on that. I will be seeing what is available later this week.
Thanks,
Greg