How to buy a new Cup car?
#1
How to buy a new Cup car?
Well all I have sold my RS. I want to buy a Cup car and do not know how and who to call about the purchace, dealer said they do not sell? The RS is not the car that I want to track. RS was nice but not the car for me. I have a trailer, truck, tools, ect.. I want a track car not a track-street. The used ones are a option but I need to know about the new pruchace with no miles.
Jim Huber
Jim Huber
#2
Jim-
I'm just guessing here but I would suggest contacting one of the top race teams like TRG or Synergy and talk to someone there.
BTW how do you keep your dumptruck so clean? Ours are never that clean...
I'm just guessing here but I would suggest contacting one of the top race teams like TRG or Synergy and talk to someone there.
BTW how do you keep your dumptruck so clean? Ours are never that clean...
#4
If you are not racing, you may find the 996 Cup is better value than the 997 Cup.
The 996 Cup has a standard gearbox, iron rotors, the option for fewer carbon fibre parts and they are not getting snapped up by most of the top teams.
When buying, you should consider -
previous owners ('famous' cars are worth more and hold their value better)
can you negotiate an engine/drive train rebuild
avoid PCCB rotors - too expensive to replace unless racing at the top level
take as many race rims as you can get
buy any spares that are available that your mechanic approves
if video / data logging kit is for sale, buy it, particularly if Motec is on offer
avoid all cars with straigtened chassis
remember that shocks need rebuilding
get a second seat and belt
remove the spoiler before taking the car up steep ramps
negotiate parts upgrades to bring it up to latest evolution 996 Cup, minus the doors (cf)
take a current GT3 series mechanic with you to inspect the car, don't get stampeded, the is another one round the corner.
Get an ATV to tow a trailer that takes your N bottles, spare tyres, gas lines, on board jack locks, etc. This way you can set up anywhere, not just by your truck.
I haven't been following US prices. I don't think you 'need' a brand new 997, but you might 'want' one.
A nice thing to have is a proper fuel cell, if its up as a choice.
Don't let anybody put you off, you are doing the right thing, as long as you look after it.
R+C
The 996 Cup has a standard gearbox, iron rotors, the option for fewer carbon fibre parts and they are not getting snapped up by most of the top teams.
When buying, you should consider -
previous owners ('famous' cars are worth more and hold their value better)
can you negotiate an engine/drive train rebuild
avoid PCCB rotors - too expensive to replace unless racing at the top level
take as many race rims as you can get
buy any spares that are available that your mechanic approves
if video / data logging kit is for sale, buy it, particularly if Motec is on offer
avoid all cars with straigtened chassis
remember that shocks need rebuilding
get a second seat and belt
remove the spoiler before taking the car up steep ramps
negotiate parts upgrades to bring it up to latest evolution 996 Cup, minus the doors (cf)
take a current GT3 series mechanic with you to inspect the car, don't get stampeded, the is another one round the corner.
Get an ATV to tow a trailer that takes your N bottles, spare tyres, gas lines, on board jack locks, etc. This way you can set up anywhere, not just by your truck.
I haven't been following US prices. I don't think you 'need' a brand new 997, but you might 'want' one.
A nice thing to have is a proper fuel cell, if its up as a choice.
Don't let anybody put you off, you are doing the right thing, as long as you look after it.
R+C
#5
Well all I have sold my RS. I want to buy a Cup car and do not know how and who to call about the purchace, dealer said they do not sell? The RS is not the car that I want to track. RS was nice but not the car for me. I have a trailer, truck, tools, ect.. I want a track car not a track-street. The used ones are a option but I need to know about the new pruchace with no miles.
Jim Huber
Jim Huber
#6
Jim Huber
#7
If you dont have several years racing experience, the 996 GT3 cup car is a much better car than a 997 cup, as the 996 has excellent racing ABS brakes and is more cost effective to run. My 04 car just went to a new owner again, but Glen can probably find you a nice one.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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#8
If you dont have several years racing experience, the 996 GT3 cup car is a much better car than a 997 cup, as the 996 has excellent racing ABS brakes and is more cost effective to run. My 04 car just went to a new owner again, but Glen can probably find you a nice one.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Jim Huber
#9
I am of the school that I buy new. Always new when avaliable. I always know what I get that way. I see no reason to advance in yesterdays sled. Cost that is a personal thing. Reward is the only reason to do any of this, and the reward can be whatever you want.
Jim Huber
Jim Huber
#10
I can see the attractions of 'new'.
However, this is a race car, Itas a differrent paradym.
Skilled race teams have spent years learning how to turn the car, as delivered by Porsche, into a race winning race car.
This process requires skill and judgement, both of which are honed by experience. It may surprise you to know that the cars that win the Supercup series sell for more than their cost, in large part because they have been sorted. Without experience, or access to experience, the car may never get sorted.
So don't write off cars out of the Supercup series, these guys are racing for almost $1,500,000, they keep the cars in perfect condition. Good news is, now is the time to buy a Supercup car, the season is over, they want to get their money out of the car and get the next one ordered. They have mechanics with the time to do whatever you have negotiated.
Good luck with whatever you do.
R+C
However, this is a race car, Itas a differrent paradym.
Skilled race teams have spent years learning how to turn the car, as delivered by Porsche, into a race winning race car.
This process requires skill and judgement, both of which are honed by experience. It may surprise you to know that the cars that win the Supercup series sell for more than their cost, in large part because they have been sorted. Without experience, or access to experience, the car may never get sorted.
So don't write off cars out of the Supercup series, these guys are racing for almost $1,500,000, they keep the cars in perfect condition. Good news is, now is the time to buy a Supercup car, the season is over, they want to get their money out of the car and get the next one ordered. They have mechanics with the time to do whatever you have negotiated.
Good luck with whatever you do.
R+C
#12
I can see the attractions of 'new'.
However, this is a race car, Itas a differrent paradym.
Skilled race teams have spent years learning how to turn the car, as delivered by Porsche, into a race winning race car.
This process requires skill and judgement, both of which are honed by experience. It may surprise you to know that the cars that win the Supercup series sell for more than their cost, in large part because they have been sorted. Without experience, or access to experience, the car may never get sorted.
So don't write off cars out of the Supercup series, these guys are racing for almost $1,500,000, they keep the cars in perfect condition. Good news is, now is the time to buy a Supercup car, the season is over, they want to get their money out of the car and get the next one ordered. They have mechanics with the time to do whatever you have negotiated.
Good luck with whatever you do.
R+C
However, this is a race car, Itas a differrent paradym.
Skilled race teams have spent years learning how to turn the car, as delivered by Porsche, into a race winning race car.
This process requires skill and judgement, both of which are honed by experience. It may surprise you to know that the cars that win the Supercup series sell for more than their cost, in large part because they have been sorted. Without experience, or access to experience, the car may never get sorted.
So don't write off cars out of the Supercup series, these guys are racing for almost $1,500,000, they keep the cars in perfect condition. Good news is, now is the time to buy a Supercup car, the season is over, they want to get their money out of the car and get the next one ordered. They have mechanics with the time to do whatever you have negotiated.
Good luck with whatever you do.
R+C
#13
#14
This sounds like great advice. Cars that have a history are far more interesting, and to a guy like me, valuable. Getting a plain Jane white one from the factory is kind of boring when there are cars out there you can find in pictures, videos, etc. Not to mention the raced cars usually have retained their livery which just makes them that much cooler.
Seems like money is not so much the issue but still IMO i.e. used supercup car would be better choice, "new is new" but with this choice you'll get already sorted out vechile, in the end more interesting and a vechile that always will keep value better.