GT 3 RMS Leak built Date
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my build date was Mar 2, and just got it back from the dealer today, with replaced rms. The good thing about having to go was the mountain pass drive on the way back, the bad thing was using 10% tire life to get some maintenance done. The delear told me that the seal works by vacuum and that if the car stands for a while (mine is maybe 4 days max standing) then it will leak. Sounds bogus to me; that would be negative crankcase pressure?? I also asked them to look at the passenger window which goes up a fraction (but sounds wierd to me) when the key goes to the first click. They said they all did that, and an RS they had in did when they showed me. I listened to how the RS revs picked up before deciding not to get the lwfw while the engine was out.
when motor is one or key turned all the way so the warning lights are up on dash (but motor not on yet) windows should work normally. however 997 cpe of any kind has "safety" feature on passenger side. you dont have one touch feature on that side until the glass is 1/2 way up....
with regard to RMS, your dealer is full of it.
my car is parked in b/n track events. sometimes 2 weeks without turning over. battery is fine, and no leak. RMS = rear main seal. a SEAL is a piece of rubber that is usually used to stop leaks. so what is this negative pressure and if you dont drive it leaks. tell them that most ppl do not drive porsche very often. so they should all leak???? you need new dealer.
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The GT3 crankcase runs a partial vacuum to free up a few HP (5ish?). That's why Porsche changed the RMS from the old spring style to a teflon (which is impervious to seal swelling agents found in motor oil) seal which works on the plastic memory effect. As the seal warms up it wants to return to an original shape which happens to tighten it up against the crankshaft. The older style will also whistle when used to seal against negative pressure (and then it leaks when the engine is not running). Apparently there was also a bad batch of seals that found its way to Porsche Motorsports but I have no idea if seals from the same batch were used on the production line.
Older Style RMS used with positive crankcase pressure
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Newer style RMS for negative crankcase pressure
Older Style RMS used with positive crankcase pressure
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Newer style RMS for negative crankcase pressure
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Your dealer is correct. The crankcase on your car runs with a vacuum as opposed to the standard 997 which has positive pressure on the crankcase. Dry sump vs. wet. If not driven often, over winter, mine will have a small leak , one drop or so on the floor. When installing the seal make sure they put in in backwards from the 996/7's. Ask me how I know.
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Your dealer is correct. The crankcase on your car runs with a vacuum as opposed to the standard 997 which has positive pressure on the crankcase. Dry sump vs. wet. If not driven often, over winter, mine will have a small leak , one drop or so on the floor. When installing the seal make sure they put in in backwards from the 996/7's. Ask me how I know.
Mine was replaced on 9/7, the mechanic installed it backwards as well.
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The RMS issue began with the 2003 long rod motor. Really no big deal, it is due to the crankcase venting they added to the late motor when they made that change. It creates a vacuum inside the crankcase and inevitably some air sneaks by the RMS as a result. The positive is that it is good for a "free"8-10hp. They updated the RMS as a result(which is a very tight fit and hard to refit as result) but they still leak sometimes. Note that they do not leak at all when running only when stopped and they wont leak much then unless You overfilled it a bit...
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Last edited by JasonAndreas; 09-14-2007 at 08:49 PM.