rop3

Just went the lemon route on an early production M5 in the end BMW did the right thing and bought it back. But certainly a lot of aggrivation, also the depreciation on the early cars was staggering based on ownership problems.

Just was wondering if the same would hold true with the Gt3/RS as I thing a lot of the drivetrain is first year. Don't want to get into that situation again back/forth to the dealer many times etc.

Also since it's a secondary car/limited usage, much would not show up until the warranty etc. is half way thru or expired.

eclou

The RMS seal issue is about the only thing I would worry about. It is not as if the engine is any kind of fresh design, just improved over 13 years

OldGuy

Rop this really isnt a first year issue-if you think about it this is an evolution of the 98 Porsche LeMans GT1. And really goes back to the 964 911. The early 996 GT3s and GT2s even had 964 part numbers on the cases till Porsche started getting cases from Spain in late 04 and on. So this is kinda a 10th year issue of this drive train. The motor and tranny is a massaged version of the 996 GT3 which was a massaged version of the 993 dry sump motor which was a massaged...
So really other than the PASM suspension its not even close to a first year issuance. The RMS thing is a small problem and not anywhere as prevelant as the 996 wet sump motor. In fact my 996 GT3 had a small RMS leak that I could have let slide but then the lite bulb went off in my head for the LWFW and RS clutch upgrade which I did under warranty. The replacement seal had a 993 part number. Relax and enjoy your great car.

rop3

You still have your 951? Just purchased my third 944 (second 951) as a doner car. My first Porsche is an S2 cab so I found a doner car on e-bay turbo S, actually in pretty good shape driveable etc. am going to swap the drivetrain from the turbo into the cab.

My track car is an 89 951 mostly stock have been thinking of new suspension. Do they still make Leda adjustables? As much as I like the new cars still like the drivetrain/weight balance of the 944's.

lumpking

OT. Did you get any resolution onthe RS allocation?

rop3

Actually PCNA called me back verified that the dealer never lost the allocation. Dealer then claimed the owner was purchasing the car (the ever changing story).

Considering I have an actual contract for this specific car, I explained that if either the dealer or PCNA can not fulfill their commitment it could/would turn into a consumer fraud case against the dealer.

So as it stands today the owner of the dealer has requested a meeting with me tomorrow afternoon. If it's a go I have to give my hard earned cash to someone that tried to f*** me around.

Anyway, have you gotten onto yours yet?

eclou

Leda is back in business. They went bankrupt before the summer but a new group bought them and has production going again. I would call Karl at Racer's Edge if you want a set-up. He absolutely nailed mine perfectly. Leda is so reasonably priced too!

RR

Gas gauge is incorrect on a lot of cars.
Require software change. A TSB will be out apparently in 2 weeks for this.

red993tt

TPMS is wacked

Cowhorn

The engine in the 996 and 997 GT3 and GT3 RS is not based on the same engine in the base 996/997/986/987. It is based on the engine in the GT1 of the late 90's and as a result does not have the potential for RMS leaks/failures.

pcar964

OldGuy

Cowhorn
It can leak at the RMS even though your correct on the history of the motor. The RMS
in the 996 and 997 GT3 can leak. I know My 996 GT3 leaked at the RMS. Its not anywhere near as
common as on a typical 996 911 but it still happens.

RR

FWIW,

many cars - Mercs, BMW, Toyotas etc - experience leaks at the main seal. It is not a Porsche only problem as the posts on this board would erroneously make you think.

Moogle

Luckily since the GT3/RS share so many components with the regular cars, most of the issues have been ironed out. The major difference being the engine/suspension, those parts have been proven year after year, they are nearly bulletproof.

YA911Fan

so they're only bullet resistant...