RonCT

Some truth in here... Right on about the "new guy" that shows up in a bone stock street car and drives the wheels of it using a great line and technique.

Also, everything is relative. If you have the funds to have a 996 Cup car and trailer rig, and get a RS for your street car along with the power seats, navigation, disc changer, etc. - more power to you.

amaist

Wait a minute.
The GT3RS is advertised as a race car you can legally drive to the track. Not as a street car that can be driven on the track. At least this is my understanding of their market positioning.
In reality Porsche made the compromise more in the direction of streetability. So the snickering is justified because a car that claims to be a street legal race car has all the trappings of a luxury car. That seems silly.
Nobody is laughing at a Turbo with navigation. It was meant to be a kick-*** street car and the bull**** meter stays down. A GT3 RS with Navigation triggers the bull**** meter, that's all.

stuka

Then why bother with the thinner carpeting?

Why bother taking out sound deadening materials?

Why bother taking out insulation in the trunk so that you can't even carry fish or meat without them getting fried on the way home from the grocery store?

Why bother making the stereo so crappy?

Why bother lightening the car at all?

Thinner glass?

GT3 seats?

nkhalidi

That's just marketing. If you recall, the E46 M3 Competition car was called "Street legal. Pretty much." when in reality it was a light options package. The GT3 RS is the same way.

A "street legal race car" is at best a contradiction in terms, and at worst a really awful compromise.

amaist

The M3 Competition package was transparent BS from the beginning.
The only good thing it had was the alcantara steering wheel. I put one on mine and kept all the cruise control and radio buttons which you lose for the useless "track" DSC mode in the competition package.

I don't see much of a problem with a "street legal race car" concept.
Give it the legislation required safety systems and it's done.
Club racing series like BMWCCA envisioned that by having stock and prepared classes. In the beginning many racers in stock class drove their race cars to the track. There is much less of that now and I think it's a shame.

I like the convenience of being allowed to drive my "track" car on the street.
If I need to take it to the mechanic I just go. I don't need to drive 20 minutes to my trailer, come back, load the car, bring to the mechanic, take the trailer to storage again.
No, I don't want my "track" car to be as spartan as a Cup car but I don't want it to be a luxury boat either. The minimum of conveniences that are light is good enough. I will not need that car to go to work with. I may go for a drive in it sometimes and maybe even do some posing downtown with it but I don't need it to be pleasant. Like old fashioned exotic cars but without bad reliability.

tocho1

Wow...I see lots of GT3 and RS owners adding nav, leather, etc to their cars...and see lots of NON-owners bitching/rolling eyes/laughing/etc....

I wonder

peloton

I've got my flame suit on in advance before I put in my 2 cents on this fine discussion: while we're all maniacally debating weights of things like nav and sunroof, aren't we forgetting that some of the same folks that spend a bunch of money and time to get 5 pounds off the car are the same people who could use dropping 20-30 pounds off their bodies (excluding all of you, of course)? That and the resultant increased focus on fitness and hydrating makes a driver at any level stronger, sharper, and less fatigued, particularly for those late afternoon sessions. Instead of chowing down at lunch during track days, I grab a light bite and go for a 45 minute run...

gmoney99

they are options...get 'em if you want 'em on YOUR car. In the US you will see them loaded thanks to dealers wanting to make more $$$ on cars they spec'd themselves - not necessarily because the owner wanted it that way.

tocho1

riiiiiight....in the US we are all victims of capiltalism...maybe in Cuba the bloody dealers are much nicer and the clients smarter...Dumb Americans!

Peloton, good point.

007GT3

I say if you can afford a GT3 RS you can spec it out anyway you want.

Personally, I'd like to see this



Mate with a GT3 RS...it will happen one day I am sure.

930man

helll its all fun ! i love to hear other peoples opinions.... its great we live in america its great we have the opurtunity to buy any porsche we want , they way we want !

amaist

Why use extreme examples like Cuba?

In Fatherland most cars of that caliber are expected to be ordered to customer spec. The practice of dealers stuffing the cars with useless options is not as prevalent. From my limited knowledge Germany is a capitalist economy but they do have some socialist features. Too socialist for you?

And dealers overstuffing cars is not really a feature of capitalism. It is a feature of allowing people to break their word (backed by a deposit). People can back out out of custom ordered cars leaving the dealer with a car that has difficult to sell options. Breaking one's word does not seem very capitalist to me.

cleanme

Amen to that!

Bob Rouleau

Hmm if you spin off backwards, does the nav system say "make a U turn as soon as possible"?

LVDell

Bob, I just spit Diet Coke through my nose!