997 GT3 sound at Laguna.
01-10-2007, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Cohn
While reading model comparisons in automobile magazines that you trust, such as Excellence magazine, is a great benchmark, it is often equally, if not more, informative to hear or read an owner's point of view. I found your review well laid out, thoughtful and devoid of any apparent bias.
Thanks again for the read. I enjoyed it.
Hank
Thanks again for the read. I enjoyed it.
Hank
Magazines obviously are always little biased (when was the last time the really critisized new models?) so it's always good to hear from "real" people.
Same thing when they (Magazines) use race car drivers for comparisons, i.e. Johannes Van Overbeck's comparison between 996 GT2 & 1973 911RS few years back was great. Not only becauise he can drive better than writers but also because he isn't so much inclined to say good things.
01-10-2007, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
+1
Magazines obviously are always little biased (when was the last time the really critisized new models?) so it's always good to hear from "real" people.
Same thing when they (Magazines) use race car drivers for comparisons, i.e. Johannes Van Overbeck's comparison between 996 GT2 & 1973 911RS few years back was great. Not only becauise he can drive better than writers but also because he isn't so much inclined to say good things.
Magazines obviously are always little biased (when was the last time the really critisized new models?) so it's always good to hear from "real" people.
Same thing when they (Magazines) use race car drivers for comparisons, i.e. Johannes Van Overbeck's comparison between 996 GT2 & 1973 911RS few years back was great. Not only becauise he can drive better than writers but also because he isn't so much inclined to say good things.
ps. Expect to see more from Excellence doing comparo's with Johannes as the hot shoe -- that boy can steer! (And I think he might be with TRG this season?)
pps. FF -- I emailed those pics, did they arrive? Two emails, both close to 10MB.
01-11-2007, 10:19 AM
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Sorry for the dealy, here they are, you wanted to post them here, right?
Looks good!
Good to hear about Johannes!
Looks good!
Good to hear about Johannes!
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01-11-2007, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Carrera GT
He also did the 7 to the "race circuit" specs. My 7 arrived too low in the rear and a little low in the front. It's now handling with great confidence and capable, almost neutral handling. .
As for race circuit specs, these are the ones in the manual, correct? Do they include ride height information?
Here is what was posted earlier, didn't see ride height info.
Here's the Excellence and owner's manual numbers.
Tire pressure:
New Factory settings are 29 front, 33 rear.
Alignment:
Street:
Front
toe +6' +/- 2'
camber -1deg20' +/- 5'
Rear
toe +13' +/- 2'
camber -2' +/- 5'
Race circuit
Front
toe +0' +/- 2'
camber -2deg' +/- 5'
Rear
toe +16' +/- 2'
camber -2deg30' +/- 5'
(From the owner's manual and Excellence)
Tire pressure:
New Factory settings are 29 front, 33 rear.
Alignment:
Street:
Front
toe +6' +/- 2'
camber -1deg20' +/- 5'
Rear
toe +13' +/- 2'
camber -2' +/- 5'
Race circuit
Front
toe +0' +/- 2'
camber -2deg' +/- 5'
Rear
toe +16' +/- 2'
camber -2deg30' +/- 5'
(From the owner's manual and Excellence)
01-11-2007, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Carrera GT
Then we're all in agreement. : )
ps. Expect to see more from Excellence doing comparo's with Johannes as the hot shoe -- that boy can steer! (And I think he might be with TRG this season?)...
ps. Expect to see more from Excellence doing comparo's with Johannes as the hot shoe -- that boy can steer! (And I think he might be with TRG this season?)...
01-11-2007, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
Sorry for the dealy, here they are, you wanted to post them here, right?
Looks good!
Good to hear about Johannes!
Looks good!
Good to hear about Johannes!
01-11-2007, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by frayed
Great report.
As for race circuit specs, these are the ones in the manual, correct? Do they include ride height information?
Here is what was posted earlier, didn't see ride height info.
As for race circuit specs, these are the ones in the manual, correct? Do they include ride height information?
Here is what was posted earlier, didn't see ride height info.
01-11-2007, 01:12 PM
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Carrera GT,
Excellent write-up! Thanks for sharing. Johannes is a principal of Flying Lizard Motorsports. He won't be switching teams. The Lizards took delivery of their RSR a few weeks ago - there are some great pics on their website. They also signed Jorg Bergmeister to team with Johannes. Henzler switched to Tafel and Petersen switched to Ferrari.
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Excellent write-up! Thanks for sharing. Johannes is a principal of Flying Lizard Motorsports. He won't be switching teams. The Lizards took delivery of their RSR a few weeks ago - there are some great pics on their website. They also signed Jorg Bergmeister to team with Johannes. Henzler switched to Tafel and Petersen switched to Ferrari.
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01-11-2007, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
Done.
01-11-2007, 07:48 PM
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Hey Carrera GT....1:38 at Laguna in a street GT3 with cups is very good....I would say that you are very close to a track record there as far as street GT3's go. You need a new career as a racecar driver.
01-11-2007, 09:25 PM
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Just re-read GT's substantive posts. I must say I'm very impressed with the quality of his review, particularly his measured and even handed treatment of both cars.
Too often, people have an axe to gind, in justifying why their car is better, is a better value, or whatever. A refreshing read on a useful A/B comparison.
Cheers.
Too often, people have an axe to gind, in justifying why their car is better, is a better value, or whatever. A refreshing read on a useful A/B comparison.
Cheers.
01-11-2007, 10:12 PM
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Just joining the chorus in thanking you for a nice review. I've been thinking about a 997GT3 since I sold the 996GT3 and your thoughts help.
I was also impressed with your 1:38 at Laguna in the 996GT3 before the track was resurfaced. Can you also share your times at other tracks with the 996GT3, particularly Willow Springs, Buttonwillow and Cal Speedway.
Thanks
Just joining the chorus in thanking you for a nice review. I've been thinking about a 997GT3 since I sold the 996GT3 and your thoughts help.
I was also impressed with your 1:38 at Laguna in the 996GT3 before the track was resurfaced. Can you also share your times at other tracks with the 996GT3, particularly Willow Springs, Buttonwillow and Cal Speedway.
Thanks
01-11-2007, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Johninrsf
CarreraGt,
Just joining the chorus in thanking you for a nice review. I've been thinking about a 997GT3 since I sold the 996GT3 and your thoughts help.
I was also impressed with your 1:38 at Laguna in the 996GT3 before the track was resurfaced. Can you also share your times at other tracks with the 996GT3, particularly Willow Springs, Buttonwillow and Cal Speedway.
Thanks
Just joining the chorus in thanking you for a nice review. I've been thinking about a 997GT3 since I sold the 996GT3 and your thoughts help.
I was also impressed with your 1:38 at Laguna in the 996GT3 before the track was resurfaced. Can you also share your times at other tracks with the 996GT3, particularly Willow Springs, Buttonwillow and Cal Speedway.
Thanks
Anyway, thanks for the kind words. It's been great fun comparing the two.