997 GT3 official specs
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I will have to get use to the rear wing, more of a aero look to it. If they have a RS or Cup wing available at some point it won't be as easy a mount as the 996GT3 wing is. You guys know better than I, but this version looks like a single molded rear deck lid.
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The aerodynamic properties of any wing are the most important ones to worry about. Having said that I am weak when it comes to the aesthetic aspect for a street car.
I don't know if I like the 997 GT3 wing.
I thought the Mark 1 996 GT3 wing was beautiful and assume it was aerodynamically efficient.
I don't like the Mark 2 996 GT3 wing
I like the 996 GT3 RS wing
As 'mds' said the front and rear bumper covers on the 997 GT3 seem to be too busy looking.
I don't know if I like the 997 GT3 wing.
I thought the Mark 1 996 GT3 wing was beautiful and assume it was aerodynamically efficient.
I don't like the Mark 2 996 GT3 wing
I like the 996 GT3 RS wing
As 'mds' said the front and rear bumper covers on the 997 GT3 seem to be too busy looking.
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Keppy... you really are the man!
Looks great, and as usual Porsche has improved the car in many areas. I'm surprised Porsche stuck with the 3.6, but I'm also glad as this means I can bolt those upgrades to my own engine. Also appears Porsche has made the GT3 more appealable to the average driver with the addition of traction control, PASM, cellphone and SAT-NAV -- hopefully this means GT3RS for USA.
Looks great, and as usual Porsche has improved the car in many areas. I'm surprised Porsche stuck with the 3.6, but I'm also glad as this means I can bolt those upgrades to my own engine. Also appears Porsche has made the GT3 more appealable to the average driver with the addition of traction control, PASM, cellphone and SAT-NAV -- hopefully this means GT3RS for USA.
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Club sport
Very exciting news. I have some questions for the experts:
The brochure indictes that there will be a no cost clubsport option with roll cage and light weight seats. Do you think that this opotion is for the ROW or will it be available in the US?
Also, the DIN weight is 1395kg. How does this compare to the 996 GT3 weight?
The specific output of 115hp/L is very impressive. Ruf and Cargraphic claim around 405 and 411 respectively for their 996 GT3 modifications. Porsche must have done some significant upgrades to be able to get another 34hp from the 3.6 engine. Does anyone care to speculate about what could be different?
Thanks
The brochure indictes that there will be a no cost clubsport option with roll cage and light weight seats. Do you think that this opotion is for the ROW or will it be available in the US?
Also, the DIN weight is 1395kg. How does this compare to the 996 GT3 weight?
The specific output of 115hp/L is very impressive. Ruf and Cargraphic claim around 405 and 411 respectively for their 996 GT3 modifications. Porsche must have done some significant upgrades to be able to get another 34hp from the 3.6 engine. Does anyone care to speculate about what could be different?
Thanks
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The weight on the Porsche specs for the 996 GT3 is 1380kg but does not note what spec. If the specs are the same that's only +15kg or 33lb. Outstanding considering all the additional equipment. I'm really starting to like it. Sure hope they make all the ROW options available too!
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I don't know if the America'a will get the Club Sport or RS versions
These are 997 GT3 RoW specs? weight: 1395 kg = 3075 lb for the base car (assume no air conditioning)
US Spec base 996 GT3 weight 3042 - 3152 lb depending on equipment (options)
Interesting that the front top vent in bumper cover is now standard. That is probably due to the increase in power, hence more heat generated by the engine. Current 996 GT3 shuld have had that all along like the RS Model.
These are 997 GT3 RoW specs? weight: 1395 kg = 3075 lb for the base car (assume no air conditioning)
US Spec base 996 GT3 weight 3042 - 3152 lb depending on equipment (options)
Interesting that the front top vent in bumper cover is now standard. That is probably due to the increase in power, hence more heat generated by the engine. Current 996 GT3 shuld have had that all along like the RS Model.
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I wonder if this GT3 will get the aluminum doors that the next Turbo has (according to Car and Driver this month) or if the aluminum is going to be saved for the GT3 RS variant.
The next Turbo will also have, again according to CD magazine, "electronic wheel torque distribution", which is why I asked if the GT3 traction control uses an electronic differential or not. Porsche used electronic differentials in the 928 and early C4 models which are similar to the Ferrari 430 unit I believe- and is also very similar to the electronic differential used in Ferrari Formula 1 cars.
I would pass on the PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management), particularly if it precluded the easy installation of other hardware- say a set of Motons for example. And, I would never want PSM, "Porsche Stability Management"
But an electronic differential or" E-diff" could be a cool thing IMHO if programmed correctly. I would like the "E-diff" but I hope that the traction control system does not have a throttle control loop as well, unless it is very well done....
The next Turbo will also have, again according to CD magazine, "electronic wheel torque distribution", which is why I asked if the GT3 traction control uses an electronic differential or not. Porsche used electronic differentials in the 928 and early C4 models which are similar to the Ferrari 430 unit I believe- and is also very similar to the electronic differential used in Ferrari Formula 1 cars.
I would pass on the PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management), particularly if it precluded the easy installation of other hardware- say a set of Motons for example. And, I would never want PSM, "Porsche Stability Management"
But an electronic differential or" E-diff" could be a cool thing IMHO if programmed correctly. I would like the "E-diff" but I hope that the traction control system does not have a throttle control loop as well, unless it is very well done....
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Originally Posted by kfleming
Question remains: increased power of the old 3.6, but didn't put these mods in the Cup cars or
any other motor being raced?
any other motor being raced?
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Originally Posted by Cupcar
The next Turbo will also have, again according to CD magazine, "electronic wheel torque distribution", which is why I asked if the GT3 traction control uses an electronic differential or not. Porsche used electronic differentials in the 928 and early C4 models which are similar to the Ferrari 430 unit I believe- and is also very similar to the electronic differential used in Ferrari Formula 1 cars.
But an electronic differential or" E-diff" could be a cool thing IMHO if programmed correctly. I would like the "E-diff" but I hope that the traction control system does not have a throttle control loop as well, unless it is very well done....
But an electronic differential or" E-diff" could be a cool thing IMHO if programmed correctly. I would like the "E-diff" but I hope that the traction control system does not have a throttle control loop as well, unless it is very well done....
The Ferrari e-diff is much more advanced and contrary to its name is hydraulically actuated via an external pump. There are multiple clutches in the diff which lock and unlock depending on various sensors. For example, under braking the diff is locked a certain amount, unlocked upon turn in to quell understeer that would be associated with a fully locked diff, and progressively locked again to get the power down as efficiently as possible. BMW M uses a similar system, as do Subaru and Mitsubishi in their STi and Evo models.
I am not sure if the Ferrari e-diff is integrated with the traction control, though I doubt it is. It isn't in BMWs or STis or Evos. The function of the e-diff is to maximise traction and stability, and traction/stability control would intervene once physical limits were exceeded.