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Old 08-17-2024 | 06:09 AM
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This. I've ran PS4S, Cup2's, RE71RS, Yoko AD09, Nankang CRS, Nankang AR1, SC7 all in the last year on street and track. For the street it's SC7 all day all night. Better than PS4S in the rain and dry with better steering feel. It's also about as fast as Cup 2's if not slightly faster.

Next pick for the way you drive is the AD09, but you'd have to overcome the mental hurdle of running a smaller 295 rear. Most people are too macho to go smaller but the balance is great. I'd take balance over grip all day long, especially for street/canyon driving. The tire itself is an endurance tire. It lasts a long time, has great grip but a level below the RE71RS/CRS but above the Cup2, great sidewall stiffness, and decent rain performance. It's a jack of all trades.

Nankang CRS has a Michelin feel to it... soft. But it's a level faster than a Cup 2.

RE71RS is my favorite tire for dry track by a small margin. As fast as CRS but with a stiffer sidewall and better feel in my opinion. This is purely preference. I know plenty of people who prefer the CRS.

AR1's are a great bargain track tire but not for your use. Horrible on the street.

Cup 2's to me are too 2015. They were great, are still great, but many tires are better now. For you I highly recommend the SC7, followed by the AD09, followed by the PS4S. The reason I put the AD09 ahead of the PS4S is mainly because you haven't used it before. It's exciting to try something new, get a feel for something different. However, if you're driving at 50F/10C a lot then I'd go PS4S, SC7, then AD09.

Sidenote: I only have a 6.2 GT3 although used to own a 7.2 GT3. Description of the tires though don't change between cars.
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Old 08-20-2024 | 09:11 AM
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Hi All, sorry, not intending to steal this post just thought it might fit in here: Anyone having experience with the relatively new Nankang CRS-V2 for track use mainly? I usually opt for Cup2s and am happy with them especially as I get quite a few miles out of them (driving on the Ring mainly). I read that the CRS is quicker but I haven't heard anything about durability which to me is more important than gaining a few secs (hence why no Cup 2Rs). So question really is durability Cup2s vs. CRS-V2s on track?

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Originally Posted by GT3_Toby
Hi All, sorry, not intending to steal this post just thought it might fit in here: Anyone having experience with the relatively new Nankang CRS-V2 for track use mainly? I usually opt for Cup2s and am happy with them especially as I get quite a few miles out of them (driving on the Ring mainly). I read that the CRS is quicker but I haven't heard anything about durability which to me is more important than gaining a few secs (hence why no Cup 2Rs). So question really is durability Cup2s vs. CRS-V2s on track?

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On a 2 min course they are 1-2 seconds faster than a Cup 2 and lasts longer. Many people say the CRS has stiff sidewalls but I find them feeling like the Michelin, which is kind of soft. RE71RS's are stiffer.
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On a 2 min course they are 1-2 seconds faster than a Cup 2 and lasts longer. Many people say the CRS has stiff sidewalls but I find them feeling like the Michelin, which is kind of soft. RE71RS's are stiffer.
Thanks! These guys confirm what you are saying re speed, also for .2 RS. Just wondering now how a tire can be quicker and offer higher durability at the same time!? Is it simply the tech that has moved on since first introduction of Cup2?

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Old 08-21-2024 | 01:44 PM
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This is a good video (4years ago) does not have the new Nankang version, but talks through various options, durability, speed, characteristics, etc...
Wet performance is discussed at the end, if you deal with a lot of rain. Speed goes left to right.

FWIW - Cup 2 is at 7:40 mark....Cup 2 (R) is labeled Cup 2 on time-tags.

The guy talking owned APEX at The Nürburgring and ran multiple Ring-Taxi's where people get a ride on the Ring, or rent a car to drive The Ring.

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Thank you, good overview. I am really interested in this new Nankang however.

Talked to a friend yesterday who put it on his GT4RS recently. so far he said, he is happy with it, different side walls and generally quicker but he only started using it so too early to assess. Will see him on the weekend potentially doing a few laps with this car / tire combination
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The caveat here is that I’m driving a turbo with RS spec wheels and tire sizes albeit with a s aggressive an alignment as possible, GT2 swaybar, DCS module, and a stiffer transmission bushing (plus active engine mounts)

1. Cup2s do pickup a tone of stones and will absolutely and blast the lower valances of the car (watch out with full body paint)
2. They have one o the best looking sidewalls that I have seen.
3. I don’t track my car. I drive in cold temps until the first snow and once roads have been salted the car is parked. Never in the rain unless on a trip…. That being said, the “liveliness of diminished performance “ because of a lack of heat makes the car way more fun and interesting at normal road speeds (55 and below).

I’ve put 12K on a set and just last fall got a brand new set of takeoffs from a friend who bought a gorgeous 997.2 GT3 4.0 RS that the selling dealer had replaced the aged out tires. He decided to put 4S’s on to make it “more docile” on the road.

Needless to say he was stunned at the difference in how the car communicated and generally felt after the swap. I’m thinking that if he had known before that he might have reconsidered the choice. I’m sure that newer and better tires are out there…. But whatever you choose these cars should be on Michelin.



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Old 08-22-2024 | 08:45 AM
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yea I think so too especially as I am getting between 200 - 300 laps out of a set (at 3 degrees camber / KW V3CS). however, tech moves on and I am not sure if they keep developing the Cup2 (probably not) and this new Nankang gets a lot of praise



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