JG 996T

Look up T2 - 996 turbo. He’s up over 500,000 miles. Cracked case around 450,000, looked brand new. Original pccb whole time. No coolant leak either.

s65e90

You really need to get out more, or you've been disillusioned by base 996/997 ownership. A clutch, if driven properly, should last over 100k. Those exotics use very small clutches and, as such, some don't last. Come over to the turbo forums, many cars here with well over 100k miles. t2 has over 500k, there's another that had 550k that was sold, and plenty with 100k +.

Upscale Audio

First off keep your insults to yourself. There's no need for it.

I understand exotic car clutches as I've owned them and have paid to replace them. A generalized statement that a clutch should last 100k is of course true. Big deal.

141k on a GT3 is not typical. It would not be typical on a turbo either. You can quote outliers...so what. I can quote GT cars I have shopped for with replaced clutches at 25k. And turbos getting replaced at the same or less. I live in Los Angeles, and that traffic alone will cause more wear and tear on a clutch than anything except bad driving habits.

141k miles is a lot of miles. Period. But this guy lives in England and drove through Europe where traffic is nothing like where I live unless it's a "Black" traffic day as they call it.

Clutch life

JG 996T

the 996/997 GT and turbo cars have mezger engine. I sold my 996 turbo at like 70,000 miles, and sold my 997 turbo at around 50,000 miles. neither had any major engine issues.
The clutch was replaced in both, however. really hard to generalize clutch life.

I'm at 50,000+ in my 997.2 RS, and hope to hit 100K and then 200K.........

Upscale Audio

How many miles before you changed the clutches on each turbo?

Your .2 RS is on the original clutch? Love that you drive it. Porsche GT cars are way different than other Porsches in that they are less sensitive to miles affecting their value. It's about a.50 cents a mile hit on a typical 997. On GT3's it isn't. This video is an extreme example of that.

s65e90

Not being insulting, don't be so sensitive. And mezger motors are not the outlier. There's tons of 996/997 variants w/ lots of miles, maybe moreso in the turbo cars. There's also a whole world outside of Rennlist, it's sad that most just purchase these cars w/ speculation based on future values or worried about miles thereby never really getting to enjoy them worry free as originally intended. The GT market has been a joke for years w/ the new variants doing this.

Upscale Audio

I'll be the judge of who's insulting if you point something at me, and perhaps you need to learn some manners when you instead double down and say "don't be so sensitive". You've been a member here long enough to know better.

Your other comments have nothing to do with what I said. A clutch lasting 141k in a GT3 is amazing since it is a performance car and a testament to the durability of the GT3.

cgfen

Unique?
I saw a white 7.1 in the local specialist shop 5 years ago that had 172K miles.
It was in for cam variator work.
Guy drove it as his daily up n down the 5 / 405

hard core

s65e90

Your perception of me is a reflection of you. I guess this is internet, and tone is lost in text...

JB911

There was a video a while back of a GT3 with a lot of miles, I think it was a 996. I think it was a German owner, can't really remember. But then, through the video it was revealed the car had another engine-what's the point if it's not even the original engine?
This one seems to be a car with lots of miles, well maintained and running well. So a well maintained car should last quite some time if not abused. Still curious about water pump/coolant. If that pump and hoses lasted 140K+ miles it's impressive. Throwout bearing too, can it last that long?

JS

That's quite impressive.

Jrtaylor9

Idk why this is such a shock. For anyone that has owned/driven a well maintained (and not even resto’d) original 911, it blows my mind how these things will fly down the road 50+ years later with the odometer flipped god knows how many times. I have to think a 997 gt car is more robust and over-engineered for street driving compared to a 911t/s/e from 1960s/1970s. The mileage we constitute as high on RL or any car enthusiast website is laughable compared to cars that are bought to actually be driven.

Jrtaylor9

I was in my CGT this week and in need of a NY inspection. I pulled into a garage somewhere up state on my way to some nice roads. My CGT has almost 17kmi which is HIGH for that car, absent the few outliers that literally have articles and YouTube videos made about them for something CRAZY like 50k mi on a 15+ year old car. The NY inspection mechanic looked at me and said “wow, 16kmi?”. My immediate reaction was “yeah, I drive it, that’s what it’s made for”, thinking of every other Porsche nut that ever says “17kmi?!”. He didn’t even notice what I said and quickly clarified “this thing is a time capsule; it hasn’t even been broken in yet!”

PERSPECTIVE.

The mileage thing is really laughable to me but so real on perceived value/condition/robustness. Until one day, they get old enough that it becomes a complete non-factor.

pissedpuppy

totally agree - my 1st p-car (19890 911SC) had to leave my ownership at 178K (got my 1st sales job and needed a 4-door), it ran strong and leaked NO oil - it was about as old as my current RS

Upscale Audio

I don't know that it is a shock. If Toyota, BMW and Mercedes can do it, Porsche can do it. The reason it's a cool video is because somebody drove it that much, and I would have liked to hear from the original owner as he must have had some great stories going through Europe. Maybe he visited some tracks. I picked up a BMW at the factory back in 2000 and spent a month touring there. Amazing roads.

To me it demonstrates a great point: If properly maintained a GT3 can be the cheapest supercar to own because of longevity and because they are less sensitive to mileage when you sell them. I put 25k miles on my F430 and that made it very hard to sell years ago. I mean very hard. I tracked it and my Challenge Stradale and it raised eyebrows too. But it was a hoot.

Props to you for driving your CGT. I remember when it came out and the drama of putting deposits and the lawsuit threats that went on with some dealers. Beautiful car. Wow.