New GT4; keep your 997?
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I was waiting for the new GT4 when I bought my 997.2 GT3. I think the 718 GT4 is about as good as anyone could have realistically hoped for from a face lift car, but I don't think it's enough to motivate me to sell the GT3. The new tech doesn't interest me (start stop, cylinder deactivation, gasoline particulate filters etc), and the engine is not a GT engine (not really a surprise) the power and weight are directly in line with my .2 GT3, so no, I'm not interested in the upgrade. Don't get me wrong, I think this is probably the best / most interesting sports car that Porsche makes right now, but I still like my 997 better. The 992 is basically a visual abomination from the front, and a tech monster, so I doubt newer 911s will do much for me. I'll probably be "stuck" with the 997 until they put *me* out to pasture. Not that it really matters if you're going to drive the wheels off the car, but reading between the lines it sounds like they will make as many GT4s as they can sell, so the 997 will probably have more of a rare cool factor.
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Originally Posted by Coolfan
What would you do? Listen carefully to what Andreas Preuninger is telling...quite some hidden things.....
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I don't understand German, but from what I've read it still sounds like a GT-lite car. I suppose they are using as an excuse to under-engine these cars the fact that they are trying to hit a price point to make GT cars more attainable to the lower end of the market, but in the end I think they are just diluting the GT ideal. Where the 911 based GT cars push the limits of what can be squeezed from that platform, it seems the GT4 isn't even close to what they could do w/ the Cayman platform. Too many compromises. I'm assuming there is an overarching concern about it being able to run w/ the 911 based GT cars of the same generation. I personally think that's a shame. GT cars should be the limit of what can be achieved with whatever car wears the badge. This car should really be called a Cayman GTS if you ask me. The GTS is too similar to an S trim level anyway.
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Non-motorsport engine in a non-911, not a chance. Although it is the same size as a 997 now. I am interested in the spyder for for a plush coffee/day trip with the wife.
I see alot of 981 GT4 guys jumping into the 718 as it the next best thing for them.
I see alot of 981 GT4 guys jumping into the 718 as it the next best thing for them.
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I too was waiting for the 718 GT4 last summer, then I decided to get a .2 GT3. I think it really depends on what you want out of the car. I'm pretty sure GT4 is easier to live with day to day - lighter clutch, wider powerband, and more gadgets. It is also easier/better to track out of the box (no CLs, no coolant pins), faster on paper. Fun factor is the one thats debatable, the 911 has its own handling characteristics and mezger sound. I also really like the heavy clutch now, anything less would feel soft to me. In the end, if you were to choose one car, I think its depends on what you will be using it for.
I'm really digging the spyder though, more than the GT4.
I'm really digging the spyder though, more than the GT4.
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I'm sure it will be a capable car, but it cannot replace the iconic 911 shape and the technology is so numbing (IMO)
my MY16 GT4 only lasted 40 miles for me - it was capable but didn't seem as fast, didn't sound as good, steering felt numb (and large) and was just to high-tech FOR ME
my MY16 GT4 only lasted 40 miles for me - it was capable but didn't seem as fast, didn't sound as good, steering felt numb (and large) and was just to high-tech FOR ME
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I am looking to buy a 997.1 GT3 right now and I can't say I would cross shop them. The GT3 is the weekend experience that I am looking for with a very special and great sounding engine. The 718 GT4 sounds good, similar to the 981 GT4, but my issue is mainly the price. I did a pretty basic build with only buckets and at $106k, I think that is quite a bit when comparing it to the 997.1 GT3 at $90k. There are also the unknowns of whether or not the strut tower issue is completely fixed as well as the third gear issue. Granted, 997 GT3's have coolant pipes, but that is $3k compared to a new transmission at $8k or more, or a lot of chassis work at probably $20k for a strut tower failure.
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