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I'm with Erik. The CGT and the 4.0 are the best modern street cars Porsches offered. Good call. JBO PS I gotta stop posting like I know what I'm talking about or you guys are gonna hate me. I better tone it down.
Well JBO & ErikErik - You guys know a LOT more than I do,.. so yes I consider you guys the experts.
.... so I'll go ahead & bring back up my question from above..... was really hoping some of you,... Mooty too,... would have some history on how PTS was ordered back in these 2009 / 2010 timeframes....
Originally Posted by Mr. Adair
I am for sure not the expert but there was a time when I think you could choose from the whole Porsche PTS Palette. Like a Sherwin Williams color chart! As time went on I think you had to get a PTS color approved as a part of the process so they could make sure the color would physically work on the car. I’m sure others will straighten me out..
Originally Posted by bweSteve
I had heard that too,... and thus it is why I am asking about this particular time slot in history. Let's say 2009 when you could start ordering the 997.2. You walk into the dealership (or call your favorite "insider" that supposedly has hooks into PAG) and say ....
Did you guys have access to the PTS Palette's? ... or did you use some PCNA or PAG listing / website,... or maybe a PDF that gave you choices?
Well JBO & ErikErik - You guys know a LOT more than I do,.. so yes I consider you guys the experts.
.... so I'll go ahead & bring back up my question from above..... was really hoping some of you,... Mooty too,... would have some history on how PTS was ordered back in these 2009 / 2010 timeframes....
Did you guys have access to the PTS Palette's? ... or did you use some PCNA or PAG listing / website,... or maybe a PDF that gave you choices?
TIA,
=Steve
Too bad Eduardo is no longer on the forum? He was a PTS expert going back many years. He once posted an official Porsche PTS chart. I remember being amazed at the sheer quantity of colors. I can’t find it
The idea in my mind when Special Wishes was really Special and not Exclusive. And PTS meant something. Today it's absolutely meaningless to me. I didn't need a chart. If for example I wanted White. I know Porsche has about 15 of them throughout the years. Grand Prix White was much more pure than Biarritz, less yellow, but not as obscure as Glacier. Carrara hadn't appeared. I don't want a chart or palette. That makes PTS a commodity and just another thread "what's the difference between Miami Blue and Voodoo Blue?". Two blues that have no history. Two blues that give me a laugh while people decipher their differences. The fact that these things actually happen is astonishing to me. PTS was supposed to be something that enabled a truly Porsche committed customer to simply get the color they wanted from the get go. I don't need to go into the "special" person room and be told what makes this and that different. BTW I love your Red RS. That car is seriously sexy. For me I probably would have gone with Carmine but Guards is super cool. I'd be very very proud to own your car but I don't need a list of Reds to get that right. I'm a Porsche historian dating back to before I could drive. That's what PTS means to me. Post 997 it means nothing. It's just every other thread on the 991 boards. It makes me ill. When I saw yours for sale I seriously considered buying it. JBO
Well JBO & ErikErik - You guys know a LOT more than I do,.. so yes I consider you guys the experts.
.... so I'll go ahead & bring back up my question from above..... was really hoping some of you,... Mooty too,... would have some history on how PTS was ordered back in these 2009 / 2010 timeframes....
Did you guys have access to the PTS Palette's? ... or did you use some PCNA or PAG listing / website,... or maybe a PDF that gave you choices?
TIA,
=Steve
Hey Steve,
This is close to what you wanted. This is a link to a sticky thread from Eduardo (the PTS expert I spoke of) and it's got a lot of PTS information. It's 2 parts make sure to read the whole thread. Some PTS info going back to 2012. It's good..
This is really sad. Waaaaaaaay back in 2005 PTS meant Porsche would paint your car any color desired as long as it was physically possible. The prices were different and that makes sense. However what's the point of paint to sample, the sample a color brought to Porsche by its customer, if PTS is a list. Porsche is building a whole lot of ill will. I have a feeling it's going to take awhile to unwind this PTS hysteria as a means to flood the market with cars that are falling in value so rapidly Porsche may beat Tesla to the bottom of the JD Power "my OEM sucks" rankings.
Thanks for finding the links Mr A. I read through the early ones and it was quite enjoyable. Especially the Gulf Blue, verses Golf Blue, given it happened at a dealership & SM that I know well enough.
Interesting antics during the 2015 timeframe. All of that really supports JBO's discontent for the erratic 991 PTS woes. I'm guessing there wasn't as much mayhem during the 2009 997.2 GT3 ordering days.
Also, there are over 3,9xx posts in that thread, so needless to say, after a couple hundred, I skimmed through the remaining.
=Steve
I'm with Erik. The CGT and the 4.0 are the best modern street cars Porsches offered. .
agreed
3.8RS not far behind
Originally Posted by erikerik
I had this pair at the same time. I wanted to keep the black one then, but ended up selling it back to its original owner who is a good friend. Always wanted another black RS, and when this one came up, I jumped on it. Yeah same one that was for sale at PNH when your's was there.
Was at the Connecticut Valley Region 60th Concours. Apparently from the Steve Harris collection. Has cup tires on it, no tread at all which was odd to me but maybe it came with them from factory.
05-31-2019, 11:48 AM
