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Old 01-08-2019, 10:44 PM
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About to pull the trigger on a 2011 GT3 - the PPI came back with no issues. Paint meter, overall condition, DME - it all came back looking good.
I requested some video of the underside and check it out. I have little to no experience with the GT3, but the underside of my 2011 GTS motor looks MUCH cleaner. Should I be concerned with the surface rust Im seeing here?

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Old 01-09-2019, 12:09 AM
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it's not that bad. I suspect it's an east coast car.
if that's a CA car then I be very worried
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Possible hurricane car, I would check to see how many states its been registered in to see if the titles been washed as well.
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You rarely see case studs and bolts (minus header studs) with rust. There’s more to that one than meets to eye because you don’t find that often and I’ve owned cars 5 times as old.
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I'd walk away from that. too many cars that are perfect to have to settle on one that isn't
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Originally Posted by Sword_of_Spirit
You rarely see case studs and bolts (minus header studs) with rust. There’s more to that one than meets to eye because you don’t find that often and I’ve owned cars 5 times as old.
The car ONLY has 17k mikes. I agree - something is up.
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What is the intended use of the vehicle? If you're buying as a track rat, I'd do a little more due diligence to make sure it wasn't flooded, and then not be too concerned. You can swap out the hardware at the first rebuild. If you're a collector who won't drive in the rain, then you should look for an example that has been treated better. I use my cars, so I would have been very annoyed to have my GT3 engine look like that, but it wouldn't have been a deal breaker. It's likely been used in road salt conditions or parked by the beach.... You just want to make sure it hasn't been parked *under the beach.
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Parked by the beach? I live a block from the ocean and my underside doesn't look like that on any car.
It looks like it's been driven with salt on the roads.
Where has the car been registered?
Did the tech pull a wheel and look at the suspension components? Did he pull the body panels underneath? Maybe only one of them to see there.

If it was just those case bolts I wouldn't be worried. If the shocks and suspension look the same, and the parts under the body panels, I'd be worried there is more to it.
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Originally Posted by Spyerx
Parked by the beach? I live a block from the ocean and my underside doesn't look like that on any car.
It looks like it's been driven with salt on the roads.
My grandmother lived right off the ocean in Daytona with a car port. Her car was covered every morning with a brine dew. It completely destroyed her car over the course of several years. Salt air and neglect are every bit as much a killer as salted roads.

One thing I never noticed before this thread, is none of those rusty bolts were zinc, cad, or chrome, they were some dull grey hardware store paint looking finish to start with. It's very possible that the motorsport engines don't have the same corrosion package that the road cars do.

Either way, it's obvious that this car has seem some use, and possibly a little neglect. I still don't find it alarming if the end use will not be part of a collection.
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Unfortunately the regular 997 911 has a 12 Year rust warranty as compared to a 3 year for GT cars...believe it or not all because of weight. My 997.2 GT3 had same issue and a quick cleaning/coating of Fluid Film (most Auto parts store sell) and bottom looks like factory. The surface rust is just that and Fluid film binds to metal, not a solvent and lasts forever...a long time. I have sprayed my hitch on my Dodge Ram and drive in salt coated roads in winter and hitch never accumulates rust again. So apply coating on all undercarriage and you are good to go!



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