CSF radiator failure
11-20-2017, 08:30 AM
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CSF radiator failure
My low coolant light started flashing last week as I was driving on the motorway I watched the temp gauges thinking it may need just topping up but after a minute the water temp flew up to the end and the oil temp followed it very rapidly I pulled onto the hard shoulder and a stream of coolant was coming from the front PU, I had to get the vehicle recovered to my shop.
The culprit is below I had the CSF rads installed April 2014, this one has split along a weld. I'm obviously upset about this as the rads were quite expensive and I bought them thinking they would last a long time. I will not be sending them back to the manufacturer as its a bit far and a lot of hassle neither will I be getting them repaired as I am now paranoid that the other rad may split and leave me stranded again so I am putting a set of German made aluminium AKG premium line rads on in replacement.
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The culprit is below I had the CSF rads installed April 2014, this one has split along a weld. I'm obviously upset about this as the rads were quite expensive and I bought them thinking they would last a long time. I will not be sending them back to the manufacturer as its a bit far and a lot of hassle neither will I be getting them repaired as I am now paranoid that the other rad may split and leave me stranded again so I am putting a set of German made aluminium AKG premium line rads on in replacement.
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11-20-2017, 07:06 PM
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Sorry to hear about your issue. Although the radiator is warrantied for 2 years, it should not have failed after 3 years.
Do you want to contact me by email and I'll see what I can do for you - I stand behind the product my company makes.
email me at: ravidolwani@csfradiators.com
Do you want to contact me by email and I'll see what I can do for you - I stand behind the product my company makes.
email me at: ravidolwani@csfradiators.com
11-20-2017, 11:43 PM
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You could also try PWR, that’s what most of the cup teams have run.
11-23-2017, 06:27 AM
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I posted this for forum information and didn't actually expect CSF to do anything as the radiator is out of warranty and as we all know car bits can fail.
CSF are sending me a brand new replacement radiator even though they have no obligation to which I think is pretty impressive and says a lot about them as a company, I will probably keep the rads for when I need to replace again.
CSF are sending me a brand new replacement radiator even though they have no obligation to which I think is pretty impressive and says a lot about them as a company, I will probably keep the rads for when I need to replace again.
11-23-2017, 09:48 AM
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Odd failure Toby!
I have almost the same install date without any issue (65,000km put on mine so far, 1st '6GT2/TT set made)...
CSF/Ravi is fantastic to deal with, standing behind their product is very important to them
I have almost the same install date without any issue (65,000km put on mine so far, 1st '6GT2/TT set made)...
CSF/Ravi is fantastic to deal with, standing behind their product is very important to them
11-23-2017, 12:16 PM
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I am quite shocked at quite how battered these rads are, I don't think it's to do with the brand and more to do with their location and the conditions of operation, they have doubtlessly had some very high speed debris impacts which have taken their toll on the fins and the fairly harsh environment of a 25K mile (in 3 years) DD in the UK has begun to cause rotting..... Probably needs that meshing a la the new GT2RS for protection although I am not a fan of the look.
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11-23-2017, 01:18 PM
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It is an odd failure isn't it, a very neat fracture line right down the middle of the weld I have no idea about welding/aluminium etc but would be interested in the possible reasons for the fracture ?
I am quite shocked at quite how battered these rads are, I don't think it's to do with the brand and more to do with their location and the conditions of operation, they have doubtlessly had some very high speed debris impacts which have taken their toll on the fins and the fairly harsh environment of a 25K mile (in 3 years) DD in the UK has begun to cause rotting..... Probably needs that meshing a la the new GT2RS for protection although I am not a fan of the look.
I am quite shocked at quite how battered these rads are, I don't think it's to do with the brand and more to do with their location and the conditions of operation, they have doubtlessly had some very high speed debris impacts which have taken their toll on the fins and the fairly harsh environment of a 25K mile (in 3 years) DD in the UK has begun to cause rotting..... Probably needs that meshing a la the new GT2RS for protection although I am not a fan of the look.
PS: I received the Cargraphics grille screen for the GT2 and GT2RS = same screen. But I have had no time to get the car(s) serviced, bumpers covers removed and screen mesh installed.
11-23-2017, 01:20 PM
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Must've been a contaminated weld filler rod or gas issue on yours, odd for sure...
mine have also taken on debris 'damage' (without issue) and have thought numerous times about mesh as well...I probably should...only real hold back was idea of potential airflow, however small; also prefer the open/no mesh look too...
mine have also taken on debris 'damage' (without issue) and have thought numerous times about mesh as well...I probably should...only real hold back was idea of potential airflow, however small; also prefer the open/no mesh look too...
It is an odd failure isn't it, a very neat fracture line right down the middle of the weld I have no idea about welding/aluminium etc but would be interested in the possible reasons for the fracture ?
I am quite shocked at quite how battered these rads are, I don't think it's to do with the brand and more to do with their location and the conditions of operation, they have doubtlessly had some very high speed debris impacts which have taken their toll on the fins and the fairly harsh environment of a 25K mile (in 3 years) DD in the UK has begun to cause rotting..... Probably needs that meshing a la the new GT2RS for protection although I am not a fan of the look.
I am quite shocked at quite how battered these rads are, I don't think it's to do with the brand and more to do with their location and the conditions of operation, they have doubtlessly had some very high speed debris impacts which have taken their toll on the fins and the fairly harsh environment of a 25K mile (in 3 years) DD in the UK has begun to cause rotting..... Probably needs that meshing a la the new GT2RS for protection although I am not a fan of the look.
11-23-2017, 04:11 PM
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That radiator has taken a severe beating, inside and out. What kind of coolant causes that terrible build-up of brown crud inside that connector?
Makes one wonder how extreme the pressures were inside that system. Temperature cycles and high pressures will eventually cause any component to fail.
Makes one wonder how extreme the pressures were inside that system. Temperature cycles and high pressures will eventually cause any component to fail.
11-24-2017, 10:28 AM
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when 2 pieces of metal are welded together the weld itself becomes stronger than the either of the 2 metal pieces. a simple welders test is to weld 2 pieces togetehr and then break it. if it breaks at the weld the test is a fail. past that xrays can be taken to see oif theres debris or contaminated rod thats used. a wled shouldnt fail the metal fails first