Works for me! Mines faster and sounds better than a .2 and no more scoring worries

 

wow. or you could let an actual enthusiast just buy one and enjoy it for years rather than pull a move like that?


just my 2 cents.


This is why prices are going up on a normal non-GT car

 

Oh also, Porsche San Antonio has a CPO '10 6MT Basalt Black C2S with 29k miles, 1 owner, nice options. If it had a LSD and didn't have an ugly front bumper plate, it would be a great deal...IMO. so if dealerships are starting to do that, I have hope that people will be more reasonable.


SOMEONE SELL ME THEIR GTS I JUST WANT TO DESTROY ALL THE MOUNTAIN ROADS AND TRACKS...and take beautiful girls out on dates. isn't that the dream?

 

LSD is a pretty rare option, its standard in the C4S. You could always get one put in, thats better than the OEM one.

 

You can get the dealer to fill the license plate holes and respray the bumper. Back in 2015 that's what I had done to my CPO '09 C2S, after already putting down a deposit on the car. I knew I was going to regret having the license plate up front, so I made a call and told them I wanted that done if I was to buy the car.

The one feature the car didn't have was PCM universal audio interface and bluetooth. They wouldn't throw it in, but said they would go half on the bluetooth and UAI, which was ~$1200 out of my pocket, so I passed on that and somewhat regretted it.

If you really want a C4S and it is a good deal, I would reconsider the car and talk to dealership about getting that front bumper taken care of.

 

This. That San Antonio car is very close to mine but mine has natural brown interior and 1/3 the miles.

 

Prices are going up on non-GT cars because

1) they didn't make many manuals; PDK was the rage for awhile
2) unlike a regular car, there aren't many coming back in on trade after a few years. People like the way the 997 drives and see no reason to upgrade
3) many people are doing well with their financial situation, and owning a 3rd car, much like owning a vacation house, is a financial burden that people only make when they are doing well financially.

If I buy a nice car for less in the winter, enjoy it for 5,000 miles and then sell it in the summer, I am doing nothing different than the guy who wants to sell his car but decides to sell it in May instead of November. Or the guy who decides October isn't the best time to sell his family wakeboard boat in Maine. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, I did that with BMW for years. I always tried to pick an M3 or some other performance car late fall, would drive it all winter, enjoy it, and sell it in June. I didn't make much if anything, but it was enough to have a fun car to drive and offset the costs and mileage of getting it.

If an enthusiast wanted to buy a nice 997 in the fall or winter, it wouldn't be, by definition, sitting on a dealer's lot for 2 months, priced down to wholesale. Those cars aren't given away unless nobody wants them. At that point, another dealer is more likely to get it off the wholesale board than an enthusiast. You are referring to some sort of "insider collusion" or cornering of the market, such as what happens with the limited production cars such as the 911R. I don't see any evidence of that in the 997 market. What I do see are a fairly limited number of cars coming up for sale, and combination of 1) demand exceeding supply 2) a lot of people being able to afford them. It helps that the 997.2 is still in a window where loan rates are cheap: the 997.1 is tough to get a loan on without a high interest rate, due to age.

 

I somehow doubt someone who purchased a car specifically to flip is going to drive 5k miles over the winter.

 

I understand. I was just letting off some steam because of the ridiculous prices and emails ive been exchanging with dealerships just because its summer time. In the winter, they are begging people to buy most of them.


But if you find a Basalt Black 6mt 997.2 GTS before I do...be a good dude.


To me.


Please.

 

I think this is the core of it: 997.2 is when PDK first came out and it was great. Between that killing orders of manual cars and the recession, there are very low numbers of 997.2 manuals, even less GTS’s and even fewer GTS’s with the exact options a picky buyer wants.

On CarGurus right now there are more GT3RS available than GTS and S combined (and one of those GTS’s is actually a GTS4 and the other is that white one no one wants).

 

I'd sell you mine, but according to folks on this forum I'm probably a no good flipper and will demand far too much money. That, or it'll have way too many miles for you.

 

Part of the problem with supply ... I intend to drive mine until it has so many miles only the Porsche Museum will want it!!!

It just keeps getting better.

Then again, if anyone wants to trade their GTS ...

Edit ... If I had known how good the C4S was, I would have upped my budget for the GTS to begin with ... going on three years and still not looking. A first for me. I'm usually (used to be) looking before getting the new car into the driveway.

 

The summer/winter doesn't appear to be a thing in the south. I like this car better in the winter with that cold dense air!

 

not really implying anything...just like the phrase and well, perfect...

 

can't wait to see pics of this one... 11 GTS PDK in white with aero and carrera sport wheels. 35k miles.
No price yet... any guesses? I'll go with $78k

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...modelCode1=911