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Luckie1127 10-19-2016 08:59 PM

Purchase decision help ...
 
Okay guys, I'm in the market for my first Porsche and need a little input from what I'd call the experts. I've lurked here for a couple months and the wife says I've spent far too many hours educating myself (and still know very little). My budget is mid-high 40's. Based on information I should be able to find a 2009 S cab. pdk. What other options should I be looking for? OR for that amount should I be looking at a different year? No tiptronic helps put me in this year along with my budget. Should I focus on the S vs the base for the additional HP?
Any other places I may find cars for sale? I've got multiple dealers in the Southeast looking for me, but nothing surfaced in the last month or so. Any guidance or help is much appreciated. Coming from a Jeep background I've found this community is as helpful as that world was.

Preferences (that i know of);)
exterior (no black) prefer white
Cabriolet
heated/cooled seats
navigation
Thanks in advance for the help
Brian

DC911S 10-19-2016 09:16 PM

No way you find a 2009 cab for mid 40's and sure not an S. Better add 10 to 12 K more. Porsche of Tyson has an 08 cab S for 47k right now

kellen 10-19-2016 09:31 PM

I think you may have to settle for a higher mileage example to get into a S Cab PDK for mid to high 40's. Definitely some out there but may have higher mileage, sparsely equipped, etc.

Auto trader has one in the PNW that meets your criteria. 2009 S convertible, PDK, heated/cooled seats. 50k price with 55k miles. Lowest one on auto trader that meets your specs. Plus it has CPO for another year or so.
Link

Luckie1127 10-19-2016 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by DC911S (Post 13687182)
No way you find a 2009 cab for mid 40's and sure not an S. Better add 10 to 12 K more. Porsche of Tyson has an 08 cab S for 47k right now

My apologies if I'm off on pricing, I just took the PP and dealer price range and used that plus previous sold units. As i said earlier I'm new and trying to understand the market prior to purchase. I've driven a 2009 coupe and loved it but nothing to compare it too. ie older models etc. I have been looking at models 50Kish miles and less. Do you suggest I buy an older model with less miles?

tomc_mets 10-19-2016 10:34 PM

I'd focus on 997.2 generation, but that's my bias. Drive a base and an S, and see if the difference is something that speaks to you...T

FireHouse1 10-19-2016 10:39 PM

I just purchased a 2009 Carrera 4 S 6 speed manual. Milage was 42K and I paid 45K. I LOVE THIS CAR! Go for the 4S if you can. Those hips and that transparent 4 wheel drive system are amazing. I looked long and hard for the right car. Take your time and find the car that you just cant stop driving.

exgtinows4 10-19-2016 11:35 PM

Welcome to Rennlist Brian and thanks Kellen for the link to my car for sale ;-)

Brian, as I mentioned in my texts, my car meets your needs and its pristine - at the lower than my auto trader price :-) and now you know me a little bit better ;-)

kellen 10-20-2016 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by exgtinows4 (Post 13687489)
Welcome to Rennlist Brian and thanks Kellen for the link to my car for sale

Small world, I'm right next door. Great price, especially with the CPO warranty.

OP I would try for the newer generation, especially if you wanted heated seats and PDK as they weren't offered in the 997.1 generation. I would try testing an S vs base car and see if it matters to you. I personally know I would always be wondering about the S if I got the base.....

grscha 10-20-2016 01:16 AM

I would strongly suggest holding out for the full leather interior. I've had both, and the full leather is much nicer, IMO.

Also, if you can, spend some time in the different seats. You may find the shape and/or adjustability make a big difference.

parlette12 10-20-2016 01:17 AM

New to the board.
Just purchased a 2009 4s cab for 48500
Red with tan extended leather
PDK
Sport plus
bose,Ipod adapter
nav
heated ad cool seats plus 16 way adj.
heated steering wheel.
MSRP 128K
Thay are out there, This one happened to be in my back yard.

kellen 10-20-2016 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by parlette12 (Post 13687694)
New to the board.
Just purchased a 2009 4s cab for 48500
Red with tan extended leather
PDK
Sport plus
bose,Ipod adapter
nav
heated ad cool seats plus 16 way adj.
heated steering wheel.
MSRP 128K
Thay are out there, This one happened to be in my back yard.

Miles? Clean carfax?

parlette12 10-20-2016 04:30 AM

Clean car fax
50,000 miles
Two owner car.
Talked to the second owner who only had the car for a year .
He was 6'6'' tall and could not fit in the car way well and did not like a Vert.
Clean PPI
Also bought a excutionary 10 year and additional 100K mile warranty
So i guess i will be keeping the car for awhile.
Also had the service records.
was planning to travel to get a car and happend to be on a lot close to home while all the equipment and color combo I wanted.
Previous owner also spen 1600 for a life time paint sealer.
Im happy and love the car.

Fined 10-20-2016 06:18 AM

Enjoy the search OP. I wouldn't be gun-shy about getting one of these cars with 50k+ miles if that is where your price point falls. As tomc_mets points out.. as far as S vs base.. you'll just need to try and find both to drive and see how you feel about it.

I'd also stretch for the 997.2 if it comes down to choosing.

Berosucci 10-20-2016 09:36 AM

My wife said the same thing during my year-long plus search.:roflmao:

Anyway, plug your parameters into autotrader in a national search and see what comes up. You will figure out quickly what you can get for the money you want to spend - just realize some regions of the country may be a bit different interms of price points than others.. Also, consider expanding your search territory and think about whether you can do a fly in to see the car - and (hopefully) drive it home or have it shipped. You will be able to find a local shop that can do a credible pre-purchase inspection (PPI).

Lastly, have fun with the search, don't sweat it. The right car will find you, when the time is right.

Let us know how it turns out :corn:.

JAGMAN1 10-20-2016 11:09 AM

I concur that full leather is a nice option. Beyond that I also really like the self dimming mirrors, with the car sitting so low it really helps reduce glare at night.

I think you have a chance at finding a 09 cab in your price range. You may have to pay 5k more than you want.

DC911S 10-20-2016 11:30 AM

Porsche of Arlington in Va has a nice 2009 911 C4S cab for sale. I've been over to look at it, but not driven it.

grscha 10-20-2016 01:13 PM

One other piece of advice -- budget some extra dollars for service/upgrades/changes. I recently bought a 997 C4S with low miles that was in great shape. Yet, somehow, I have still spent extra $$$ on it since I bought it! (I knew it needed new tires, but I decided I couldn't live with the stock stereo/PCM and now I really need wheel spacers.)

OKB 10-20-2016 03:41 PM

youll me alot better off to buy a cpo car from a dealer, if anything goes wrong with it, and you donnt have a warrantee, youre wife will really kill you

cringely 10-20-2016 04:07 PM

One year ago, purchased a base 2009 Carrera (Black Standard Leather, Manual transmission) with the following options: Self Dimming Mirrors, Heated Seats, Bluetooth, Sport Chrono Package Plus (virtually useless IMO), BOSE Sound Package, 6-Disc CD/DVD Changer, and Floor Mats.
Price (including CPO!) was $48,000 + tax/license/etc. It was a one owner car and had 40,593 miles. Since my previous 996 had suffered IMS failure, I only considered CPO cars. Check the Porsche website http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-custo...arch.ipl?cid=1 if you want to go that route.

Best of luck

voiceprint1 10-20-2016 06:31 PM

09 seems like a solid year car to me, I really enjoy my 997.2 base, to find one nicely optioned under 50k is hard, mostly because of Porsche's extremely expensive options list, which may or not suit your tastes, for me lower miles and PDK were more important than all those extras.

Blu311 10-20-2016 07:10 PM

Just to add to what others have said, you should be able to find a nice 2009-2010 with ~50k miles for your budget. Most likely a base model.

I chose a base over an S because I didn't think the S was worth the $10k plus - especially since I don't track. I wouldn't be afraid of higher mileage as long as all maint was documented. Some in that price range may have lower miles and less options and some may have higher miles and better options, you should be able to find something if youre willing to sacrifice something (S or miles or options) or be willing to spend more.

Good luck!

Luckie1127 10-20-2016 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by exgtinows4 (Post 13687489)
Welcome to Rennlist Brian and thanks Kellen for the link to my car for sale ;-)

Brian, as I mentioned in my texts, my car meets your needs and its pristine - at the lower than my auto trader price :-) and now you know me a little bit better ;-)

Indeed your car does meet my criteria, unfortunately we are cross country journeymen. Love the combo of your car!

Thanks to everyone for the input and guidance, patience will be the key in this process.

exgtinows4 10-20-2016 10:26 PM

My bad I thought you were in LA

rbennett 10-20-2016 10:38 PM

Luckie as a data point, I found my 2010 997.2 on cargurus.com at a Porsche dealer in LA.

2010 C2 PDK Cab and heavily optioned for $46k
1 owner car bought and traded back in to the same dealership
2 year CPO
65k miles
Basalt Black with full black leather
Full maintenance records all performed at the same dealership
No issues, everything worked
Upon my inspection looked absolutely like new to me

Luckie1127 10-21-2016 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by exgtinows4 (Post 13687489)
Welcome to Rennlist Brian and thanks Kellen for the link to my car for sale ;-)

Brian, as I mentioned in my texts, my car meets your needs and its pristine - at the lower than my auto trader price :-) and now you know me a little bit better ;-)


Originally Posted by rbennett (Post 13689894)
Luckie as a data point, I found my 2010 997.2 on cargurus.com at a Porsche dealer in LA.

2010 C2 PDK Cab and heavily optioned for $46k
1 owner car bought and traded back in to the same dealership
2 year CPO
65k miles
Basalt Black with full black leather
Full maintenance records all performed at the same dealership
No issues, everything worked
Upon my inspection looked absolutely like new to me

Rod,
Thanks for the data point and thats kind of what I've found, pricing around the country has varied but cars are available if you can find the right combo. Thanks for stopping in on the thread and I look forward to joining you owners in the near future.
Brian

garyinseattle 10-21-2016 12:03 PM

http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-car...CB29999S755265

Link to one that fits. This is a dealer in the Seattle area.

rbennett 10-21-2016 12:20 PM

Your welcome Brian and good luck finding the right one!


Originally Posted by Luckie1127 (Post 13690754)
Rod,
Thanks for the data point and thats kind of what I've found, pricing around the country has varied but cars are available if you can find the right combo. Thanks for stopping in on the thread and I look forward to joining you owners in the near future.
Brian


CTCOOP 10-21-2016 12:57 PM

Just purchased a 09 C2S Cab CPO 1 owner. 6 speed, sport chrono, adaptive sport seats, 16K miles, 1 owner, clean, new tires, 40K service (by time), etc etc. $57k. To be in the mid 40s going to need to go 50k+ miles ish or base model from my recent research.

exgtinows4 10-21-2016 01:24 PM

Pm.sent

php 10-21-2016 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by CTCOOP (Post 13690922)
Just purchased a 09 C2S Cab CPO 1 owner. 6 speed, sport chrono, adaptive sport seats, 16K miles, 1 owner, clean, new tires, 40K service (by time), etc etc. $57k. To be in the mid 40s going to need to go 50k+ miles ish or base model from my recent research.

This is more what I'm seeing. No way you can find a 09 S cab for mid to high 40s...if so it probably would have 70 -80k miles. What I'm seeing is you can find a decent 09 base for high 40s, for anything S you'll be looking into mid 50s, high 50s for CPO.

High mileage shouldn't be an issue if maintained properly. Or, you could also get a rather loaded 08 S. Sounds better and all issues with IMS is pretty much non issue in 07+

DC911S 10-21-2016 02:18 PM

Porsche of Tysons has a 08 C2S cab at 47K right now.

Surfer2001 10-21-2016 02:34 PM

Just 09 Base Cab with ton of options 40K
 
I just get a base cab with all the options for 40K, including 10K HRE wheels. 59K miles. I've lowered it, put new tires (not needed) and had my wheels powder coated. spent 600 for all that. love the car now, BTW the base car is plenty fast. PDK is awesome, especially in sport plus mode.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8bf4871e20.jpg

Luckie1127 10-31-2016 05:04 PM

Located a CPO car with low miles, please see link below, I'd love to hear any input. The car appears well equipped and they have negotiated a better price than the ad already but your input to a fair market value would be greatly appreciated. All service records are documented for this vehicle as well.

https://hoffmanporsche.com/inventory...a+White+869679

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9ba261930a.jpg

2009 997.2 Cab

Own Goal 11-01-2016 12:10 AM

Sounds exactly what you are looking for. Low mileage but a bit high price sort of justified by CPO. Last car I had was a BMW 335i CPO and I bought the extended service policy also. I could not get out of the dealership for less than $1k a trip still. I know, Porsche is not BMW.
I decided this time to roll the dice and forget the CPO. That CPO is about a $5k+ bump. After much research I figured the '09 and later is solid enough I'd forego. The IMS is history.
For comparison my '09 S was second owner with 44k miles, just came off CPO. Only option didn't have was crest on the headrest. Also had $9k in mods I would have done plus a few had not though of. I paid a bit less than the ask on that cab. If not comfy, then spend on the CPO car. This is your first P car, this is my 7th. I'm also old and set in my ways.


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