What’s the difference between Fister and Gundo Hack exhaust mod?
#31
Shipping and down time ... I was fortunate to be able to drive my mufflers over to Darin and swap them on the spot for exactly what I wanted. Shipping hassles might have pushed me toward a local shop, or encouraged me to bring out my torch and welder. But as I said ... I was fortunate and would use Fister again.
#32
Not in MA anymore
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#33
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My total was very similar, but i took it to a welding shop so,i could get pretty welds . shipping and exchange to canada 🇨🇦 would have probably put it up to 6-700 more at least. If I was in the US , I would have considered fisters especially if they were close by.
#34
Drifting
I imagine I do not nearly have the financial wearwithal as some around rennlist, however since we are talking about $100k cars and when exhaust systems usually run a few thousand dollars, to me, the difference between a low-quote $85 exhaust hack and $385 Fister factory-refurbish seems minimal at best. Do it right, do it once. Sorry, not trying to be insensitive. Just tying to give the best advise.
I spent about $75 on my Gundo Hack. I “did it right and did it once” and I didn’t throw hundreds of Dollars into the trash along the way.
Its one thing to spend the money because you don’t have the willingness or ability to remove the mufflers, or you have enough money that several hundred Dollars isn’t important to you. If that’s the case, own it. But don’t “advise” someone that there is any functional benefit from spending that money. There is not.
#35
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I am constantly amazed at the willingness of some people to **** their money away. The difference between $85 and $385 isn’t “minimal”, it’s $300. Add in shipping and installation and you’re talking about an amount double that, or more.
I spent about $75 on my Gundo Hack. I “did it right and did it once” and I didn’t throw hundreds of Dollars into the trash along the way.
Its one thing to spend the money because you don’t have the willingness or ability to remove the mufflers, or you have enough money that several hundred Dollars isn’t important to you. If that’s the case, own it. But don’t “advise” someone that there is any functional benefit from spending that money. There is not.
#36
Drifting
According to the owner of the Indy Shop I go to, him having seen enough failing welds and hack jobs on non-stainless cross-over pipe was enough to make me spend $300 extra for the piece of mind that my exhaust wouldn't mysteriously become louder over time. While there may not be a functional benefit, there are others which you seem to conveniently forget. I did not care to play roulette with the local exhaust shop. Yes, I did it just once and am sure I wont have to mess with it again. That is my "advice" to you.
This ain't rocket science. If a competent muffler shop welds a stainless tube in there, there are no worries. If Bubba glues some PVC in there and it comes apart, that's on the car owner.
If paying more for the Fisters makes you or other buyers happy, then spend it. It is what it is. But it isn't any better than a Gundo done by a competent muffler shop anywhere in the country.
The Fisters are beautifully-made pieces of art. I'll be the first to admit that my $75 Gundo Hack has horrible-looking welds. But, since no one will ever see those welds, I can't justify spending more for them.
#37
Rennlist Member
I am not here to argue with you. But, I think it's prudent to give perspective to someone asking about the different ways to accomplish the sound-goal on a performance car.
#38
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And to that end it is up to the user to determine the added value of professionally refurbished mufflers. If you're cool with sloppy welds that no one will see, fine. It would only bother you or I to know they are underneath. My point is that any performance exhaust system across any make/model is usually a several thousand $. So at this point, accomplishing the goal for $300 seems very reasonable to me.
I am not here to argue with you. But, I think it's prudent to give perspective to someone asking about the different ways to accomplish the sound-goal on a performance car.
I am not here to argue with you. But, I think it's prudent to give perspective to someone asking about the different ways to accomplish the sound-goal on a performance car.
#39
Rennlist Member
This is a debateable remark. Anytime you change the flow of an exhaust system you are going to affect the performance. The question are.... is it a positive or negative affect on performance and what is the nature in change of performance.
#41
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#42
Not in MA anymore
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matt
#43
Three Wheelin'
Not true. Here in California it has to pass visual inspection. They literally use a mirror like a bomb squad to eyeball under the engine bay to see if there are any mods. Once they see it, they might not flunk you, but they can.
#44
Rennlist Member
uh......it is true.....it just sucks to be you to have to deal with those who are ignorant. All it is , is a change in sound.
#45
Intermediate
Ok, I like so many others would like to turn up the volume and possibly squeeze a bit more from the motor in my 997.1 C2S. If I was to do a Gundo/Fister hack, and as well a header swap, lets just say Fabspeeds. Is that something anyone else has done?
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