Manual or PDK?
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Manual or PDK?
Looking to upgrade my manual 997.1 C4S to a 997.2 Turbo. Which tranny should I get? I know the PDK is a faster option but does it change the enjoyment of "driving" a manual? Seems to be a glorified automatic.
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Depends. If using it as a daily driver, I'd get PDK and leave it in auto mode for stop and go traffic. Regardless, if you get PDK, I would get the upgraded steering wheel with the paddles rather than the buttons...T
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Agree, 3 pedals is the way to go. If you plan to keep the car I believe manual will be more desirable in the market down the road.
Also the feel of driving a manual and rowing the gears can not be replaced.
Also the feel of driving a manual and rowing the gears can not be replaced.
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Nothing like the lost art of rowing your own gears. To me it makes me feel like I'm one with the car and I really don't care if manual shift is slower from 0- 60 than PDK. However, as tomc_mets said, I'd probably prefer PDK if I had to sit in rush hour traffic every day.
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I prefer manual. The 997.2 manual is the last 911 turbo available with a manual transmission. Many of them were ordered from the factory with PDK, so manuals aren't very common. Good luck with your search.
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I sold my manual '07 targa 4S and bought a '12 GTS cab with PDK. Here's my $.02 - PDK has some advantages in stop & go traffic, the shifts are amazingly quick and almost always in the right gear. Launch control is fun too. Get the paddles because the buttons suck. BUT.......
I miss shifting and without looking at the gear number on the dash, I usually am not 100% sure what gear is engaged and I feel somewhat disconnected from the car, especially when I want to go for a late night cruise. PDK makes my driving a bit lazy and in manual mode it is just not the same. I'm not bagging on PDK because it does have some advantages, but I'd rather have a manual. My wife even says the manual is more fun to drive.
I'm planning on selling the PDK this year and getting a manual.
I miss shifting and without looking at the gear number on the dash, I usually am not 100% sure what gear is engaged and I feel somewhat disconnected from the car, especially when I want to go for a late night cruise. PDK makes my driving a bit lazy and in manual mode it is just not the same. I'm not bagging on PDK because it does have some advantages, but I'd rather have a manual. My wife even says the manual is more fun to drive.
I'm planning on selling the PDK this year and getting a manual.
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It's a personal choice. There is absolutely not a better one out of the two. Also depends on how you want to use the car. I went with PDK on my recently purchased GTS. My other car, which is faster.. is a 6 speed. I enjoyed the 6 speed more than I do now when I lived in a different city. Nothing changed about my driving habits besides the city, but having the 6 speed in St. Louis was a different experience than having it in Charlotte. Charlotte traffic is needlessly heavy at nearly all times of day and I don't care to be rowing gears in that kinda traffic.. not every single day of the week. My cars are daily use. If I had bought my car as a weekend car then I might've gone with a manual. But I don't miss "rowing my own". The PDK is very engaging since I drive it strictly in manual mode (besides traffic jams).
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I have a PDK and I love driving at 10/10 I can extract all the performance from my car consistently and safely without risk of cooking the clutch or over revving the engine.
However when not driving at 10/10 I really miss the manual and will likely trade in for manual down the line. Most of my driving ranges from 4/10 to 8/10 and manual is better in these situations.
However when not driving at 10/10 I really miss the manual and will likely trade in for manual down the line. Most of my driving ranges from 4/10 to 8/10 and manual is better in these situations.
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Personal choice. No one can make that for you.
If I had more feeling in my left leg I'd still have three pedals. Since I broke my left ankle a couple weeks ago I'm glad I've got only two.
I love the technology and the choice the PDK offers. Take off from a stop isn't as smooth as a manual, but I understand why so that doesn't bother me.
In traffic I put it in auto and relax.
On the twisties I put it in manual and am almost as fully engaged as a manual would allow me to be. Almost ...
I have the buttons and I like them. They are right where I want them. A can shift up or down with either hand. I have never hit them accidentally. I move my hands less on a shift in the middle of a turn. Yes, the PDK is so smooth that a downshift in the middle of a turn is essentially seamless.
The PDK is a learned technique. As with driving in general ... practice practice practice!
The choice is yours. Don't let others persuade you.
Good luck with the search.
If I had more feeling in my left leg I'd still have three pedals. Since I broke my left ankle a couple weeks ago I'm glad I've got only two.
I love the technology and the choice the PDK offers. Take off from a stop isn't as smooth as a manual, but I understand why so that doesn't bother me.
In traffic I put it in auto and relax.
On the twisties I put it in manual and am almost as fully engaged as a manual would allow me to be. Almost ...
I have the buttons and I like them. They are right where I want them. A can shift up or down with either hand. I have never hit them accidentally. I move my hands less on a shift in the middle of a turn. Yes, the PDK is so smooth that a downshift in the middle of a turn is essentially seamless.
The PDK is a learned technique. As with driving in general ... practice practice practice!
The choice is yours. Don't let others persuade you.
Good luck with the search.
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