Bleeding my brakes
#1
Three Wheelin'
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Bleeding my brakes
I've gotten some good info from searches, so feel safe posting without being punched in the face, even though I am a Porsche owner who might have committed the minor infraction of asking something that was asked before.
My understanding (from searching!) is that the a 997 brake fluid refill is in order every two years.
I learned this because, while my rotors are in fantastic shape and there is ample meat on all brake pads, my pedal action (as I just cross two years of ownership) went from very firm and strong to a bit soft. Not going to say spongy, but relative to two years ago, it's a soft brake pedal feel.
1) Is it best just to go back to spec/stock fluid? Are higher-performing brake fluids available if I am looking at 90% spirited street driving?
2) Is there anything unique to the process for 997's?
3) Any specific pointers?
4) Anyone want to punch me?
My understanding (from searching!) is that the a 997 brake fluid refill is in order every two years.
I learned this because, while my rotors are in fantastic shape and there is ample meat on all brake pads, my pedal action (as I just cross two years of ownership) went from very firm and strong to a bit soft. Not going to say spongy, but relative to two years ago, it's a soft brake pedal feel.
1) Is it best just to go back to spec/stock fluid? Are higher-performing brake fluids available if I am looking at 90% spirited street driving?
2) Is there anything unique to the process for 997's?
3) Any specific pointers?
4) Anyone want to punch me?
#2
I've had good luck with a pressure bleeder.
Amazon.com
Motive Products 0118 Power Bleeder
by Motive Products
$67.46
4.3 out of 5 stars (19)
Or similar.
No punches were thrown during this post.
Amazon.com
Motive Products 0118 Power Bleeder
by Motive Products
$67.46
4.3 out of 5 stars (19)
Or similar.
No punches were thrown during this post.
#3
ATE type 200 fluid is a good fluid for what you will be using the car for. I have a video on YouTube detailing the process. Search 997 brake bleed. There is not much unique to bleeding Porsche brakes other than that there is both an inner and outer bleed nipple. 1 liter should be enough to change out your fluid.
#4
If you choose OEM fluid it is identical to Pentosin SuperDot 4 and can be purchased from Amazon etc.
http://www.pentosin.net/specsheets/P...SuperDot_4.pdf
http://www.pentosin.net/specsheets/P...SuperDot_4.pdf
#6
Three Wheelin'
2.) Nothing unique. Just the extra bleed per caliper.
3.) Are you doing this yourself? If so, protect and protect any painted surface. You might want to suction out some of the fluid before flushing the fluid to speed things up.
4.) No. Really lame.
#7
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I'm not the handiest Porsche owner out there so take mine to an independent every other year and bring my own fluid. Cost me $126+/- and went with Pentosin Dot 4 from Pelican
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#8
You should stick to the stock fluid. This is because brake fluid is hygroscopic, meaning it absorbs water. When water is absorbed it not only reduces the boiling point of the brake fluid but it also allows for moisture to be introduced to the inside of the brake hydraulic system. This could cause corrosion and rust to start to form. If this happens its possible that the sealing inside the system could rupture.
Now with all of that being said the higher the boiling point of the brake fluid the more hygroscopic it becomes. Which means you need to flush your fluid more often.
Is there anything wrong with using the Ate Type 200? Not at all, just be aware and flush the fluid more.
Now with all of that being said the higher the boiling point of the brake fluid the more hygroscopic it becomes. Which means you need to flush your fluid more often.
Is there anything wrong with using the Ate Type 200? Not at all, just be aware and flush the fluid more.
#9
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Good info from all.
As for increasing hygroscopic properties: It wouldn't stop me from opting for better fluid and jumping to annual flushes, and it won't be the first time I've dealt with such fluids, but (if true) that is an excellent reminder as to the downside of getting brake fluid with a higher boiling point.
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As for increasing hygroscopic properties: It wouldn't stop me from opting for better fluid and jumping to annual flushes, and it won't be the first time I've dealt with such fluids, but (if true) that is an excellent reminder as to the downside of getting brake fluid with a higher boiling point.
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Last edited by Philster; 03-31-2016 at 08:22 PM.
#10
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
ATE type 200 fluid is a good fluid for what you will be using the car for. I have a video on YouTube detailing the process. Search 997 brake bleed. There is not much unique to bleeding Porsche brakes other than that there is both an inner and outer bleed nipple. 1 liter should be enough to change out your fluid.
Grazie.
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#12
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unless you're tracking, OE fluid is fine. You can spend more money of higher temp fluid but if you got two years out of the previous stuff than you're fine.
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#15
If you choose OEM fluid it is identical to Pentosin SuperDot 4 and can be purchased from Amazon etc.
http://www.pentosin.net/specsheets/P...SuperDot_4.pdf
http://www.pentosin.net/specsheets/P...SuperDot_4.pdf