997.1 Factory Aerokit Yet/Nay
#46
yes, and to be clear. I wasn't the one that ever said a wing makes the car a "poseur", I was just stating my preference and was jumping on the comment with regards to not being able to afford it.
#47
While we're throwing our hats into the ring with opwingions, I'll tap in.
If I were to build a stable of 997 NA cars from base 997 to 997 monster 4.0 it would look like this:
Base 997 Carrera: no wing
997 Carrera S: no wing or ducktail
997 Carrera GTS: Aerokit wing
997 GT3: MKII GT3 wing
997 GT3RS: MKII GT3RS wing
997 GT3RS 4.0: Cup wing
Convertible or targa? No wing whatsoever.
I think that is a nice steady progression of wings that match the performance of the car. Something cool to think about regarding wings... Porsche themselves brought back the ducktail as options for the base 991 cars when (presumably) they saw the aftermarket respond to the lack of a factory ducktail for the 997 (they would not sell you the OEM SC ducktail until recently). I do remember reading here that some of those aftermarket guys received cease and desist letters from PCNA for those ducktails but I have no sources to back that up.
If I were to build a stable of 997 NA cars from base 997 to 997 monster 4.0 it would look like this:
Base 997 Carrera: no wing
997 Carrera S: no wing or ducktail
997 Carrera GTS: Aerokit wing
997 GT3: MKII GT3 wing
997 GT3RS: MKII GT3RS wing
997 GT3RS 4.0: Cup wing
Convertible or targa? No wing whatsoever.
I think that is a nice steady progression of wings that match the performance of the car. Something cool to think about regarding wings... Porsche themselves brought back the ducktail as options for the base 991 cars when (presumably) they saw the aftermarket respond to the lack of a factory ducktail for the 997 (they would not sell you the OEM SC ducktail until recently). I do remember reading here that some of those aftermarket guys received cease and desist letters from PCNA for those ducktails but I have no sources to back that up.
Last edited by nwGTS; 07-06-2016 at 12:21 AM.
#48
again my affordable comment by no means a blanket statement... but found holds true for some that seem to want to justify what they have and what they don't.
#49
Love when people try and convince themselves and others of the "classic lines" is the way to go and keep their car base... that any exterior modification will send you into some lower class of owner or poser.... meh....Just a heads up, Porsche offers the aero as a factory option so IMO quite classic but for the owner that wants (and can afford)a bit more...... aero, handling/performance, asthetics, style and just flat out better looks.
Aero looks fantastic and functional.... If its in your mod budget (or maybe you have no mod budget) go for it OP and don't look back. Takes a bit of a boring sleepy looking 997 and wakes it up..... Just do front and back so car looks balanced. If you do aome sort of aero in the rear then need something up front and vise versa.
MaddMike you must love car below this? so pure ? yeah not for me but 1000% appreciate if that was what ones budget could afford. When I compare a car like the below (base looking seal grey 997) to an Aero car there is simply NO comparison...none. (and same with an S, although S looks much better then a none S mainly due to wheel size IMO but an S aero compared to an S none aero I would take the aero any and every day)
I think many people try and convince themselves that what they have is the best even when its the base available for many reasons (that is a much longer explanation needed).......happens with cars, homes, cities and towns people live in and more. Recall a conversation I had with a guy years back and him telling me how he lives in an apartment and would never own a house, such a hassle, property taxes, and so forth and how he doesn't really like the neighborhoods around us etc... I mean renting offers so much more flexibility with your money and on and on. Well turns out I do a lot of banking at same bank and heard the guy hasn't been able to quality for a home loan after trying 3 times for a house in my neighborhood. Then it made sense why he loves his apartment so much
Aero looks fantastic and functional.... If its in your mod budget (or maybe you have no mod budget) go for it OP and don't look back. Takes a bit of a boring sleepy looking 997 and wakes it up..... Just do front and back so car looks balanced. If you do aome sort of aero in the rear then need something up front and vise versa.
MaddMike you must love car below this? so pure ? yeah not for me but 1000% appreciate if that was what ones budget could afford. When I compare a car like the below (base looking seal grey 997) to an Aero car there is simply NO comparison...none. (and same with an S, although S looks much better then a none S mainly due to wheel size IMO but an S aero compared to an S none aero I would take the aero any and every day)
I think many people try and convince themselves that what they have is the best even when its the base available for many reasons (that is a much longer explanation needed).......happens with cars, homes, cities and towns people live in and more. Recall a conversation I had with a guy years back and him telling me how he lives in an apartment and would never own a house, such a hassle, property taxes, and so forth and how he doesn't really like the neighborhoods around us etc... I mean renting offers so much more flexibility with your money and on and on. Well turns out I do a lot of banking at same bank and heard the guy hasn't been able to quality for a home loan after trying 3 times for a house in my neighborhood. Then it made sense why he loves his apartment so much
Wow, angry much? I'm the guy that was considering a turbo kit so I'm definitely not a purist. I just don't like that wing--way too big and looks like it belongs on a Subaru STI (which also comes from the factory with a wing).
We all have different tastes and my taste goes for the clean rear end. All comments were made tongue in cheek to a point.
For me (notice the disclaimer) GT3 needs a wing. Base or S doesn't. But that is just my opinion.
#50
No not mad....... Just disagree is all. Not sure being compared to a Poser or a Subi STI tribute car is all that complimentary though if running an Aero package as I have but different strokes for different folks. Just cruising in base car like yours would feel like I was in a leased car (usually look stock/base) or swimming in a bucket of plain oatmeal is all. (joke)
A 997.1gt3 isn't much faster then an 997.1S and on the track the same just a bit faster then an aero S car in anything less then a pure race car drivers hands . But gt3 needs the wing? Confused...
lets just agree to disagree... I will drive my Subi STI Imposter around town
A 997.1gt3 isn't much faster then an 997.1S and on the track the same just a bit faster then an aero S car in anything less then a pure race car drivers hands . But gt3 needs the wing? Confused...
lets just agree to disagree... I will drive my Subi STI Imposter around town
Wow, angry much? I'm the guy that was considering a turbo kit so I'm definitely not a purist. I just don't like that wing--way too big and looks like it belongs on a Subaru STI (which also comes from the factory with a wing).
We all have different tastes and my taste goes for the clean rear end. All comments were made tongue in cheek to a point.
For me (notice the disclaimer) GT3 needs a wing. Base or S doesn't. But that is just my opinion.
We all have different tastes and my taste goes for the clean rear end. All comments were made tongue in cheek to a point.
For me (notice the disclaimer) GT3 needs a wing. Base or S doesn't. But that is just my opinion.
Last edited by mickfluff; 03-29-2016 at 04:48 PM.
#52
Ed
1987 Carrera (factory wing and spoiler - 1987 Aero?)
2012 C4GTS (sans aero for now)
#54
Loving my new (to me) aerokit but the front lip is a real pain. Almost afraid to drive the car 'cause it drags everywhere. Using the door edge trim which helps but, man, gotta find a better solution. Maybe a splitter that isn't as low or one that is black and flexible? Heard that the GT3 splitter is a direct replacement but not sure that will be any better. Ideas?
#55
Loving my new (to me) aerokit but the front lip is a real pain. Almost afraid to drive the car 'cause it drags everywhere. Using the door edge trim which helps but, man, gotta find a better solution. Maybe a splitter that isn't as low or one that is black and flexible? Heard that the GT3 splitter is a direct replacement but not sure that will be any better. Ideas?
#57
I like the full aero kit....looks great. Mine came without, but I'm adding the turbo bumper and spoiler.
Was this the 2006 S that was for sale at Performance Ford in Charlotte? Drove up to look at the car, but decided against it...did you look at the over-rev report? Walked in the end as those guys were crooks.
Was this the 2006 S that was for sale at Performance Ford in Charlotte? Drove up to look at the car, but decided against it...did you look at the over-rev report? Walked in the end as those guys were crooks.
#58
Loving my new (to me) aerokit but the front lip is a real pain. Almost afraid to drive the car 'cause it drags everywhere. Using the door edge trim which helps but, man, gotta find a better solution. Maybe a splitter that isn't as low or one that is black and flexible? Heard that the GT3 splitter is a direct replacement but not sure that will be any better. Ideas?
That lip gets dinged and scratched by most driveways even on angled entry. It's sacrificial. I think of it like the curb-feelers on my Grandpa's 1962 Caddy. :-)
I use a piece of mid-grade sandpaper across the bottom every now and then to remove the road rash and hanging threads.
-Ez
#59
I like the full aero kit....looks great. Mine came without, but I'm adding the turbo bumper and spoiler.
Was this the 2006 S that was for sale at Performance Ford in Charlotte? Drove up to look at the car, but decided against it...did you look at the over-rev report? Walked in the end as those guys were crooks.
Was this the 2006 S that was for sale at Performance Ford in Charlotte? Drove up to look at the car, but decided against it...did you look at the over-rev report? Walked in the end as those guys were crooks.
So far, three months later I am very happy with the car, just need to get rid of the Aerokit (currently for sale on market place).
#60
The wing is the thing. It not only looks sweet but it helps keep things steady if you mistakenly lift your right foot before you apex. Not to mention it's period perfect design...much better than the taco.